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Postby HA_DA_JA » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:47 am

The guys at Ezy cash just emailed me the serial number. It matches one of them on the stolen list.
I sent it to Jon at mixmasters.
I dare say it will be done and dusted in the next few hours.
The cops have a big job ahead of them sorting out the trail.
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Postby Ausrock » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:11 pm

I'd seen the 24 channel on Ebay BUT as it has a meter bridge (there were no m/bridges in the Mixmaster's list), I considered it to be probably a genuine sale.
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Postby HA_DA_JA » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:22 pm

Email for a serial number and then we will all definietly know for sure.
Judging by the amount of other studio gear, its still a 50/50 affair.

Also
Dont be too hard on Ezy Cash as these businesses dont purposely go out to buy stolen gear.
It is because of the serial number system and other record keeping practices that the law rightfully imposes on them that we are able to catch these people - eventually.
I just hope that it does not take 6-12 months for Mix masters to get there gear back from the law.
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Postby mylesgm » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:48 pm

Go forth and conquer...
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Postby Jason » Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:09 pm

I messaged the guy last night for the serial number and photos. He got back to me first up this morning. Same deal. Rang the mobile number. I should have look here first to see who else was on it. Oh well. At least there is a fair few of us keeping our eyes open. These guys are going to have a very hard time getting rid of this stuff in Aus if they don't get caught over this one.
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Postby TimS » Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:20 pm

The auction on the one from Norwood EZY Cash has ended...
Wonder whats happening...
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Postby Ausrock » Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:57 pm

Just Ebailed the 24 channel seller............


Answer is serial #331
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Postby NYMo » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:56 pm

Hi there,

I emailed Mick early this morning and he got back to me asap..so all good then !
(Well...at least that's one of them back)

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Postby Starxi » Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:39 pm

This is fantastic news..
I would suggest to mixmasters that they drive around every known pawnbroker, cash converters etc around Adelaide asap.. chances are they've pawned bits and pieces all over the place.
Probably just lucky that this particular shop had an ebay account.
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Postby no-fi » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:02 pm

hmmm...... don't pawn shops have to send serial numbers of things to the police before they sell them anyway? or is that just a NSW thing?
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Postby Kurt » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:52 pm

Here in Canberra they have to keep them on record, but I don't think they send them to the police for approval. The cops will go there and check records if they suspect something (usually 'coz the person that's been done over reports that their stolen property has been seen in a shop)

no-fi wrote:hmmm...... don't pawn shops have to send serial numbers of things to the police before they sell them anyway? or is that just a NSW thing?
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Postby HA_DA_JA » Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:25 am

Its law to keep a register and it gets downloaded to the Police either daily or weekly.
That's why serial numbers are so important as these are on the records that are sent to the police. Also any personalised engravings E.G. Drivers License or company logos and stock numbers are also recorded if they are engraved on the merchandise.
Let this be another reminder that all of you should keep your own registry of gear and serial numbers. IF something gets stolen and you report it along with the serial number - somewhere down the track it will come through the system if it finds its way to one of these stores.
Every 6 months troddle on down to the cop shop and ask them to do a serial number check on their system to see if your gear comes up. Unfortunately I dont think it links with other states as of yet.
Record your serial numbers. (insert Arnies voice) DO IT. DO IT NOW!!
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Postby Simon B » Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:45 am

I am suprised there is no mention of asking to pick it up........

I would have driven to the location myself to pick it up.......

well me and some mates.......

Bloody thieves...... may they all have a nasty accident with a door
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Postby NYMo » Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:18 am

Hi there,

I think the cops are the only ones allowed to approach the business.
(idf thats what you're saying Simon B)

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Postby Chris H » Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:11 am

NYMo wrote:Hi there,

I think the cops are the only ones allowed to approach the business.
(idf thats what you're saying Simon B)

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A few years ago we had some Lorantz mid hi boxes stolen along with some lighting. It turned up a few weeks later at a Frankston pawn shop being sold as stage monitor wedges. Spoke to the owner and he said he wouldn't sell them untill we spoke to police etc to confirm they were stolen goods etc.
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Postby heathen » Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:11 am

It's good that most thieves are stupid, if the cops are keen to make a bust then there's a good chance of catching someone over this.

Well done guys for noticing these.
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Postby tactics » Thu May 20, 2010 1:54 pm

Hi all, Jon from Mixmasters here.. thought i would update & thank everyone who helped on the whole breakin situation etc.

We have so far retrieved 4 of the 7 Toft consoles that were stolen. We got one back yesterday morning after an email from a Turtlerock forum member who noticed it on Cash Converters website. Thanks for that email. It was at a Cash Converters store about 5 mins from here.

The Ezy cash loans/ebay console was retrieved the next day by police & someone was nabbed for it, went to court etc. Thanks to John & Dale for the heads up, much appreciated.
Another console was recovered after a tip from a local guy who spotted one in a Cash Converters in the northern suburbs.
The fourth was recovered by police from another Cash Converters store locally.

This sort of thing can really leave a dent in you after it happens & left everyone here feeling pretty low.
Thanks to all the forum members here who sent their best wishes etc.

Cheers..on behalf of all here at Mixmasters.
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Postby HA_DA_JA » Thu May 20, 2010 2:01 pm

Are you any closer to nabbing the people who actually orchestrated the theft?
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Postby tactics » Thu May 20, 2010 2:15 pm

HA_DA_JA wrote:Are you any closer to nabbing the people who actually orchestrated the theft?

At the time the cops pretty much knew who was behind it. But getting enough evidence to actually
convict someone is another story.
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Postby Mickstape » Fri May 21, 2010 12:19 pm

Ok so where does this shitbag live? Who needs a conviction man, I'll remove limbs and digits for free, well I would consider doing it for a nice compressor, got any distressors lying round? I am deadly serious.
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Postby a.beck » Fri May 21, 2010 1:28 pm

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Postby heathen » Fri May 21, 2010 3:02 pm

Good to see something coming of it and some gear coming back, good work guys.

Even when deadly serious smileys are a good idea. :) :) I learnt that the hard way. :( :(


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Postby rob » Fri May 21, 2010 5:24 pm

Mickstape, keep in mind that the guys that stole this stuff from Mixmasters are just a bunch of junkie / crooks, not wannabe recording engineers.
This of course doesn't make their behaviour any less unacceptable, but not worth your call to arms. If fact any attempt such as you propose would probably just result in you getting a knife stuck in your guts. Let it go.
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Postby prequalizer » Fri May 21, 2010 10:17 pm

So what happens to the pawn shop, do they loose money for buying it off the thieves?

What happens to the gear retrieved, is that sold off as still new, ex-demo, used, etc by the store?

Do you think it would be fair to a buyer if gear was retrieved and sold off as if it was new, if the gear had been used even slightly by potential thieves or new owners that had to give it back?
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Postby musikwerks » Fri May 21, 2010 10:57 pm

Do you really think a junkie is going to plug it in and fire it up?

They stole it purely for cash to buy their next fix.
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Postby prequalizer » Sat May 22, 2010 12:18 am

musikwerks wrote:Do you really think a junkie is going to plug it in and fire it up?

They stole it purely for cash to buy their next fix.

Someone has to plug it in, to check if it's working?
Old school of thought...
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Postby musikwerks » Sat May 22, 2010 12:47 am

Then it's no different to being powered up in the showroom.

New.
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Postby prequalizer » Sat May 22, 2010 2:11 am

musikwerks wrote:Then it's no different to being powered up in the showroom.

New.

Powered up in the showrooms are Demos, or floor demos. Once it is powered up at the store, it's not new anymore.
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Postby NYMo » Sat May 22, 2010 9:51 am

Hi there,

I spent nearly 20 years selling new MI gear *off the floor *.

Demo gear was stuff that had been loaned to people for evaluation in
their own studio or home.

(Just to clarify the terms :)

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Postby HA_DA_JA » Sat May 22, 2010 11:17 am

The pawn shop loses its money. Thats why they dont pay much for the stuff.
They then seek damages from the guilty party at the court hearing but the likely hood of getting paid by them is about 5%. Who heard of a druggie paying for something they stole?
It then goes on there official record as a debt outstanding and it makes it harder for them to get credit from a bank or anyplace.
They get banned (by the owner) from doing business from there pawn store so they have shot themselves in the foot. Because they usually get off lightly form the judge over a stealing case they are back on the streets.
They now have no source of quick money and things get downhill from there. Talk about a bad lifesytle they had before they were busted now it s just living out a hell. Sometimes jail is a much safer nicer place where at least you get feed and some freedom like electricity tv ect.
This is a growing problem in our society.
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