Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby Linear » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:12 am

well that studio and description is The Village in LA.

http://villagestudios.com

That dude posting the ad on gumtree? who knows. maybe someone should call him and find out!

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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby Linear » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:15 am

better yet - why doesn't someone call or email him and see exactly what he/she is offering. act like an interested artist.

i'm sure we'd all love to know!

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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby SteveL » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:58 am

Well, the ABN that appears in that ad reveals it to be registered to a Samuel David Evans as individual/sole trader with Kirribilli, Sydney as the main business location (all publicly available info on the Australian Business Register website)

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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby seb » Mon Sep 21, 2015 10:15 am

does anyone here have an accent?
to make it sound like they are from a touring group.

what happens when someone actually wants to check it out?

or is it a scam to get a deposit up front?
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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby Thirteen » Mon Sep 21, 2015 11:16 pm

It would be fascinating to call and ask to book Studio A and see what happens...
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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby Manning » Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:32 am

The gear list is a cut and paste from the Village's gear list.
http://villagestudios.com/gear/

Image #1 (and 2) looks to be from SAE in Byron Bay
https://www.tineye.com/search/92a7f591c ... 5140ddba9/

Image #3 is from One River Media in San Francisco
https://www.tineye.com/search/7dd33c589 ... a9f1d167e/

Image #6 is from the SAE in Madrid.
https://www.tineye.com/search/159d14b27 ... 654ffb0aa/

I couldn't identify #5, but I think it was in the RA book that we got on a group purchase a few years back.
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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby Ben M » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:34 am

Eeek Crazy stuff.
False advertising like this will only back fire on these people.
Thankfully anyone who knows the studio scene in Oz will immediately see through the BS.
It's too small in Oz to try this shit on...they will fall on their swords.
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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby gregwalker » Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:01 pm

I'm just fascinated by the logic:

Scene 1.
'Hmmm I'm an evil bastard wanting to scam a section of the community that is vulnerable but very wealthy, who shall I choose?.....ah yes, young rock bands!!'
Cue the Darth Vader theme from Star Wars and fade malevolent laughter.

Scene 2. (crappy studio interior)
'See that mic there.' points to be!@#$%^& microphone, 'Stevie Wonder and Ella Fitzgerald made hits singing into that exact mic!' A confused band member asks 'isn't that an Mbox we're recording into. where's the console and all the vintage stuff?' 'That's actually a 50s valve mixing console that once belonged to Sun Records. You guys wouldn't understand how rare and valuable that piece is...we've had it professionally disguised as an Mbox to reduce the risk of theft. You can't be too careful with these one-of-a-kind museum grade relics of recording history' etc etc
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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby Barney Loveland » Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:32 pm

Just wow. This world is too small for that....
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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby rick » Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:02 pm

I feel the need to fix whoever owns that gumtree add with a hammer .
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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby The Tasmanian » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:41 am

Such disgusting fraudulent behavior on a grand scale.
Gobsmacked at the pathetic delusion(s).

I really hope someone goes and visits and reports back here.
Anyone passing nearby ?
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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby Hookemeister » Thu Sep 24, 2015 2:40 pm

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The best way to deal with this kind of behaviour is to report it as false and misleading advertising to Gumtree and ask them to remove the ad immediately. Let them know you will be also reporting it to the following:

1: NSW Dept of Fair Trading,
2: Australian Competition and Consumer Commission.

Gumtree has a responsibility to remove ads that are misleading or fraudulent.

Make sure you include details of the origin of the photos shown in the ad as well as the ABN number.


Honest advertising and selling practices under the Competition and Consumer Act 2010 benefit small businesses and consumers alike.

Enterprising small businesses should be able to prosper on the merit of their products or services without fearing that competitors will gain an unfair competitive advantage from dishonest representations.

Consumers also have a right to accurate and truthful information from businesses about their purchases.



Hope this helps.
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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby Manning » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:49 pm

I reported it two days ago. Gumtree have not responded in any way as far as I can tell.

Update - I just submitted a 3rd report. Feel free to submit your own.
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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby Manning » Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:17 pm

Those image searches I posted above have expired.

To look them up again, take these image URLs and enter them into the TinEye website (https://www.tineye.com)

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTI5WDEwNDE=/ ... M/$_20.JPG
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzE4WDEwNjk=/ ... A/$_20.JPG
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzMwWDk3Ng==/ ... 6/$_20.JPG
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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby Manning » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:15 pm

OK, apparently the trick is to email their support directly via the "contact us" page. Mindy responded about two hours after my 3rd report.

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Hello Manning Bartlett,

Thank you for your email.

Based on the information you provided, I have deleted this ad from Gumtree and blocked this person from posting any future ads.

Once again, thanks for taking the time to bring this to our attention.

Thanks,

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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby Hookemeister » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:03 am

Good work Manning. Of course he'll probably pop up somewhere else, so in anticipation of that, I'd email a copy of the complaint to the NSW Fair Trading as well as the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission.

That's what they call preventitive maintenance.

Once they drag him over the coals he'll probably think twice about doing it again.
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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby The Tasmanian » Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:28 am

Thanks Manning for all your detective work and perseverance,
well done !!!!
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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby Manning » Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:07 am

Greg - if I was engaging in a scam like this, I'd probably not use my own ABN.

I would guess that the person associated with that ABN is probably completely unaware of what is going on.
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Re: Crash Symphony - the supposed 'Best Studio in Sydney'

Postby Phil Snow » Sat Oct 31, 2015 12:57 pm

It's the Uber of recording...
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