Turtlerock Forum

That's a good idea - in a bucket of urine!
Sure to "piss off the engineers"

I reckon that'd piss of the drummer. especially as he's bound to hit the 'mic' covering himself in piss. Sadly I cant say that I've seen that but I've definitely worked with some drummers who would've benefitted from being covered in piss...

It's cool to see a lot of us on the same page. Interstellar space rocks, but there are still some current groups doing similar music that is just as exciting. Check out the BBC (Jim black, nels cline, Tim Berne)
The same spirit, but embracing the sounds of pop music from the 50 years after Coltrane.

Any other reccomendations for records?

Some I like for the production-

Brian blade- perceptual. A joe ferla job I think. One of the best vibes of any record- dark, warm to the point of losing some clarity, but really beautiful. Too often in jazz the rhythm section is so separated, but they sound like one instrument on this.

Brian blade- season of changes- same band, but a completely different sound. This record is more composed and chamber jazzish, and the clarity and space is beautiful.

Showa 44- orneon. No idea where the instruments end and production begins. Sounds amazing and pure.

Vijay Iyer- tragicomic. Not clean, a little distorted and messy, but it supports just how incredibly percussive the record is and makes it even more exciting.

Bill frisell- Nashville. The way acoustic music should sound imo

Biting .... tongue .... hard .... to .... stop ..... lambasting ..... jazz ......

failed!, I can't do it - so much of this jizz music is just nowhere - starts nowhere, goes nowhere and thankfully ends .... still nowhere. A guy I had a jazz duo with gave me a copy of "Miles Smiles" to listen too - telling me it's the greatest thing ever ..... well, the guys on it can obviously play but come on... whatever happened to that thing called melody? what happened to a groove - it just jumps up and down on the spot like it doesn't know where to go. The frantic approach to jazz in the 60s was just a vain attempt to fight against the tsunami of rock music.

Ahh that was good to get off my chest.

Just give me prog rock and Frank Zappa - jazz isn't dead, it just smells that way.


The cat is amongst the pigeons

Frank Zappa wouldn't exist without Jazz.

And Jazz wouldn't exist without drugs

most music made from 1950 to the present has the influence of drugs... either directly or by osmosis.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/ ... c-research

jkhuri44 wrote:it's pretty hard to listen to Interstellar Space by John Coltrane, and take anything seriously after that. all improv/free jazz shit....just pails after listening to something like that.

I couldn't agree more. That record really got to me. And it's the only free jazz record I've ever dug, so I'm keen to check out some of the records mentioned here!

I saw a little doco about (I think it must be) Simon going to Korea to learn their drumming/ culture. Really interesting journey, I would recommend looking it up or checking out Simon's stuff


PS I'm glad not everyone likes jazz. When I'm in a room and everyone agrees, it does my head in.

i actually heard that record a loong time ago, like when i was 19...and thought "f@#$ this is nuts"....then i got more into indian music..and learnt a bit more about coltrane/alice and their love of indian music...
listened to it again, and im like...holy shit...whoa... its not for everyone, but if you've got a good ear, and a fast melody CPU, its definately good brain food imo.

interestingly enough, that album was recorded with a plastic sax...coz it freaked out more in the high notes....awesome.

Alice Coltrane - Journey's in Satchidananda is one of my all time faves too

+ 1 on that record...man music used to be good