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Drum dial. Should every studio have one?
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:02 am
by Lee
http://drumdial.com/Just wanted to see how many people use these and what the thoughts are on wether they are useful. How many drummers here even have one?
Re: Drum dial. Should every studio have one?
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:50 am
by The Tasmanian
I just got one a few months ago Lee.
The reason I did was so that when a drummer starts a session, and we get the kit all tuned nice, I want to know where the tuning was, especially when new skins are put on the kit and they change during the session.
Also - I get to know more about tuning particular drums in the process.
Its amazing how many drummers are not great at tuning too.
Re: Drum dial. Should every studio have one?
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:45 am
by Kurt
I actually want to get one for live sound. I think it would be a great way to fix tuning issues quickly. As said above, many drummers are rubbish drum tuners...
Re: Drum dial. Should every studio have one?
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:58 am
by ChrisW
I can't see a reason to not own a relatively cheap aid.
I never use one, and prefer the ear myself.
Some of the best drum sounds are made from uneven tensionings. Although I admit, for years I would turn up to a session at least an hour and a half early and spend most of that time tuning and retuning my drums.
Re: Drum dial. Should every studio have one?
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:28 am
by Wiz
I got one, I use it.. it really helped me learn(ing) to tune drums.
I realised I was being way too ham fisted.
I would recommend one, put it this way, it aint gonna make anything worse, and can be extremely handy...
Re: Drum dial. Should every studio have one?
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:39 am
by Alistair
I bought my brother (drummer) one about 6 months and I don't think he ever even opened the box!
Might steal it off him and see if he notices.
Re: Drum dial. Should every studio have one?
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:43 pm
by M A Taylor
I have one and have done for a couple of years, I love it... I use it regularly, once you get the hang of it it's a great aid... I use it as "get everything under control" kinda thing and then work out the pitch from there..
I will say this though, it's not quick.. And it's only really effective on fresh skins..
Re: Drum dial. Should every studio have one?
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Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:30 pm
by Kurt
Just ordered one, at less than $75 delivered you can't go wrong!
Re: Drum dial. Should every studio have one?
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:38 am
by ChrisW
M A Taylor wrote:And it's only really effective on fresh skins..
Heads!
Re: Drum dial. Should every studio have one?
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:49 am
by Wiz
Calf skin head...
Now thats a good name for a punk band
Re: Drum dial. Should every studio have one?
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Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:56 pm
by Junction
I am not convinced, I have a Tama Tension Watch and its an incredibly slow process, compared to when I was using a Torque Drum Key, which got me there in a fraction of the time, until the drummer I stole the key from, stole it back.
link to a torque key
http://www.gallinsmps.com.au/drums/drums-brands/drums-evans/evans-torque-drum-key.html... oh and the torque key you can use without having to demount the drum, the dial, you need the head to be horizontal with dial on top (not underneath), a real pain having to pull every drum from your kit to get to the resonant head and of course the kick!
Re: Drum dial. Should every studio have one?
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Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:01 pm
by Lee
The Tasmanian wrote:I just got one a few months ago Lee.
The reason I did was so that when a drummer starts a session, and we get the kit all tuned nice, I want to know where the tuning was, especially when new skins are put on the kit and they change during the session.
Also - I get to know more about tuning particular drums in the process.
Its amazing how many drummers are not great at tuning too.
That Is such a great idea for tracking, which makes me wonder why I have never seen one in any studio/session I've been to. Will you be using one on your under water session?
Re: Drum dial. Should every studio have one?
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Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:06 pm
by The Tasmanian
yes certainly using it for this gig - as the kit being submerged,it changes the tuning because of the (large) pressure changes, so I need to come back to roughly the same tuning during each rehearsal "dunk" / and the final gig.
I was just using the drum dial a few minutes ago - I like it,its well built, and for the first time in my life I think I can finally write down some basic (approx) tuning notes for drums on a session.
It has been a handy tool to get a understanding of the tension relationship between front and back skins too.
Still......amazing drum tuning really is a black art.
Ive witnessed many great drummers, (who pull really great tones) when Ive asked them to tune the snare (or anything) a touch, and they will tune 1,2 or 3 lugs and suddenly it sounds incredible - no reference to finicky pressure,or tapping each lug to check each overtone, or making sure that they apply the same turn on the other lugs, to keep them the same...
Re: Drum dial. Should every studio have one?
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Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:07 am
by mylesgm
The Tasmanian wrote:Ive witnessed many great drummers, (who pull really great tones) when Ive asked them to tune the snare (or anything) a touch, and they will tune 1,2 or 3 lugs and suddenly it sounds incredible - no reference to finicky pressure,or tapping each lug to check each overtone, or making sure that they apply the same turn on the other lugs, to keep them the same...
agree.