Hi-Hat mics

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Hi-Hat mics

Postby Drumstruck » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:42 am

Often described as the most expressive part of the kit - the Hi-Hat. Any favourite mics or positions?

atm I'm using a Heil PR-40 that is astounding - crisper than smith's chips - about 2" above and 3" out from the hats angled down at the bow, and pointing towards the drummer (err that would be me too) :))
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Re: Hi-Hat mics

Postby Chinagraf » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:59 am

Opposite side of the hat to the drummer, about 6 inches up sort of mid way on the cymbal width angled away from the kit. I mainly use a schoeps cmc5, but sometimes a 414. The other day out of laziness I used an Audix d2 and got a surprisingly good sound. It tamed the ping of my crappy hihats well.
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Re: Hi-Hat mics

Postby Drumstruck » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:28 am

anguswoodhead wrote:I scored 2 more lulu fets ....


That sounds really funny Angus =))
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Re: Hi-Hat mics

Postby Wiz » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:55 am

anguswoodhead wrote:I scored 2 more lulu fets in a deal the other month.
Now using them for hats, overheads and ride - very happy.
I position all mics on the drum roughly angled towards the drummers crutch.
Drum mics and Hats mic are as close as I can get them without getting hit.
I want to capture the impact of the hit not just the sound of the hit.



drummers crutch?

is he injured?

give us the crux of the story, do you mean crotch or crutch?

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Re: Hi-Hat mics

Postby ChrisW » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:48 pm

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Re: Hi-Hat mics

Postby Engininja » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:26 pm

If someone twists my arm and insists on a HH mic, its a 57 for me.
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Re: Hi-Hat mics

Postby Paul Maybury » Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:58 pm

If I really must, Beyer M160 or other ribbon.
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Re: Hi-Hat mics

Postby Chris H » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:29 pm

If I really must, its a KM 85.
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Re: Hi-Hat mics

Postby rick » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:46 pm

i like km 84

then after i like the sound and i am mixing i leave the channel open right up to the point the drummer starts hitting them like they are rats nicking his lunch
and then i wonder what happened to that lovely dance i thought he was going to play on the hats when i was doing a mic test ..?

but seriously km 84 .. light as light hats .. wish somebody would tell me what light hats are in 2013

i have been bluffing lately i dont know the brands or gauges (weights ) any more

so add "what hats do we want to record" to the thread me thinks !
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Re: Hi-Hat mics

Postby Paul Maybury » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:20 pm

Light hats.
That are quiet.
And dull.
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Re: Hi-Hat mics

Postby Wiz » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:29 pm

He heh heh rats nicking his lunch.....

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Re: Hi-Hat mics

Postby Engininja » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:48 pm

2 hats on the bottom. 1 on top.
2 hats on the bottom. 2 on top.
Big set of metals keys inside them.
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Re: Hi-Hat mics

Postby Drumstruck » Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:30 pm

rick wrote: .. wish somebody would tell me what light hats are in 2013

so add "what hats do we want to record" to the thread me thinks !


There are lightish hats on the market, but if you want really light hats going vintage or custom made seems to be the best option (to me).

I have a pair of Zilco hats from the late 1930s that are "paperthin" top and medium weight bottom - warm, subtle and a little silvery - try to pry them from my cold, dead hands.

For custom cymbals / hats I give another plug for Craig Lauritsen at CymbalUtopia in Adelaide - most of my cymbals have been custom made by Craig based on my description of the sound + weight that I'm after - he has nailed it every time.

What hats do we want to record? Apart from my 3 pairs (13" Zilcos, 14" Masterwork and 15" Lauritsens) I like Paiste soundedge hats as they have a nice "chick" and record clearly.


Interesing that most have picked condensor mics so far - I expected the old favourite KM84 to appear regularly.
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Re: Hi-Hat mics

Postby jkhuri44 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:45 pm

make custom hats with splash cymbals :-)
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Re: Hi-Hat mics

Postby Kurt » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:33 pm

Tried some different hats when recording my band's album, the drummer had some really light 12"s that he uses when jamming with his jazz mates. they did not work, at all, for metal. Ended up using his normal 15" heavy set (and living with the spill).
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