subs on an aux

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subs on an aux

Postby gigpiglet » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:48 pm

i like to run subs off an aux.

why?

you tell me...
who does? who doesnt?
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Re: subs on an aux

Postby Lucas » Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:35 pm

I don't, basically because I don't have the inputs on my DSP. That obviously raises the question of mon vs stereo... I'd like to pursue a continuation of stereo as I find the options for mix techniques in stereo to be both favourable and interesting.

So as soon as the old 260 gets upgraded, aux fed will be the go.

My main focus in the short term is improving my knowledge and application of sub placement techniques for even coverage and effective coupling.
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Re: subs on an aux

Postby Chris H » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:20 am

I don't run them from an Aux but sometimes like the option of pushing the low end up or down a bit depending on the band. For this I have an Avalon 747 over the main outs via inserts and the low fader in the Avalon's 5 fader eq is just the ticket for this.
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Re: subs on an aux

Postby Gian » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:27 am

Subs through an Aux means you only need to send certain instruments to the sub, saves everything going to it.
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Re: subs on an aux

Postby Chris H » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:43 am

A word of warning re running the mid highs full range when your subs are on an aux. With the Lorantz system the 12 inch speakers for the mid hi boxes are specially designed for that application so if you run them full range you stuff them. They are not designed for the cone extension caused by the low end.
I don't know what other systems are like this but it would be prudent to make sure before doing so.
My mate hired his Lorantz system out and always instructs the hirer not to run the mid highs full range with an explanation as to why. Sure enough eventually some twit thought he knew better and put the subs on an aux......fair enough,....... but decided to bypass the active crossover for the mid highs.
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Re: subs on an aux

Postby NathS101 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:35 pm

I much prefer subs on aux when mixing FOH.
As Gian said, only turn up what you want: e.g. kick, floor tom, bass, tracks, possibly a bit of acoustic if it's a solo performer playing a percussive part, possibly a bit of keys if it's a big pads moment, etc
Of course variable HPF and gates also help a lot...
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Re: subs on an aux

Postby Kurt » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:43 am

I've read about it and would try it if I had enough sends but I high-pass everything but Kick/Floor/Bass/Keys anyway. Does it really make that big a difference?
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Re: subs on an aux

Postby gigpiglet » Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:38 am

there is a big difference between hi passing everything, and subs on aux.

with the hi pass, say you are at -3 @ 80hz (or whatever, just an example) once you have 40channels of that, there is still a lot of 80hz in the system going to the subs!!

with subs on an aux, and sending kick, bass, floor tom, backing track to them.
the ONLY 80hz in the system is those things.

running the subs on an aux not only makes the subs sound better, but clears up the top of the mix too in my experience.
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Re: subs on an aux

Postby Toddo » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:29 am

I always run them off an aux when I can. Much better control over the bottom end as Gareth mentioned. Sounds clearer to me.
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