Ok, I'll start.
That early Madonna guitar sound... Like the one in "Like a virgin"
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Mike
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Mike de Vrees
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I don't know about the actual record chain, but that is David Williams playing, and it's pretty much how he sounds wherever he played. He sadly passed away a few moths back. Most 'funky strat' patches on 80's keyboards were based on David's sound. He played a lot with Michael Jackson, nearly every album, recorded classic tracks like "Wanna be starting something", "Billy Jean" etc. as well as all the Madonna stuff and countless others. All those classic funk guiater parts are him.
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Also going DI with lots of compression (as ChrisW said), chorus and micro pitchshifting..
This was a big staple sound for the 80's chorus/shimmer sounds i.e Lukather, Huff, Thompson, Landau, etc..
This was a big staple sound for the 80's chorus/shimmer sounds i.e Lukather, Huff, Thompson, Landau, etc..
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Aearth wrote:So what are we starting?
well you wanna be startin' somethin', you got to be startin' somethin'...
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ChrisW wrote:Yes, a friend of mine uses a Dynacomp (original).
He's actually a bass player and it sounds killer on bass too.
Yea I have a 70's one :D
I was looking for another recently and found one on evil bay for $349 USD and nearly fell over.
I bought mine from smithy's for 50 bucks hehehehehehehe
Even just running the gtr through the pedal without it turned on, subtly changes the tone (in a good way)
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ok, I gots one...
I'm really digging the sound of acoustic folk/rock guitar from especially the early 70s. Think James Taylor or Neil Young.
What kind of signal chain are we talking there? What kinds of acoustics get that sound best? What's the "standard" mic technique and position? Preamps, comps, etc? And how much does or does not recording to tape contribute to the sound.
Let's not get too specific, I'm just looking for the "go to", tried and trusted approaches that are usually the best place to start in trying to get the sound.
Ah gawd, this feels like a real gearslutz question. The problem with posting it there is I have no idea who knows what they're talking about and who is full of it. Here, I already know you're all full of it ;)
Cheers guys
I'm really digging the sound of acoustic folk/rock guitar from especially the early 70s. Think James Taylor or Neil Young.
What kind of signal chain are we talking there? What kinds of acoustics get that sound best? What's the "standard" mic technique and position? Preamps, comps, etc? And how much does or does not recording to tape contribute to the sound.
Let's not get too specific, I'm just looking for the "go to", tried and trusted approaches that are usually the best place to start in trying to get the sound.
Ah gawd, this feels like a real gearslutz question. The problem with posting it there is I have no idea who knows what they're talking about and who is full of it. Here, I already know you're all full of it ;)
Cheers guys
Chris L
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The MXR distortion is hard to beat for a smoother tone than mos of what is dished up these days. With the MXR and the Rat i find most of what needs to be covered sound wise.
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Chris H wrote:The MXR distortion is hard to beat for a smoother tone than most of what is dished up these days. With the MXR and the Rat i find most of what needs to be covered sound wise.
Chris Hallam.
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Whatever floats your boat.
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Whatever floats your boat.
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Looks like i can't edit my posts for some reason???........ maybe it's the half a bottle of red i have just polished off???.......but i didn't mean to quote myself, ... even though i'm full of it most of the time....
any way about 70's acoustic guitar recording....in the 70's i did much more playing than recording so i'm no expert but here's my take:
The fundamental is the guitar...the best you can get your hands on, and not just because it has a "NAME". The guitar would almost certainly be a Martin, often a pre war vintage, or a Guild or Gibson. The player wound not pick the guitar just from the name brand but would play many of the same model and pick the one that sounded head and shoulders above the rest. I was working at Maton mid 70's and the player that wanted a great guitar would play all the guitars from a few batches over a month or so and pick the best. I did this by keeping the best guitars i bought and selling on the ones that were so so.
Recording wise, and i'm no authority here, so i assume it was fairly standard, what ever desk the studio had through one (or two) of the many great mics, Neuman KM 85 or 84 or U47 or U87 or AKG 451 , maybe through a pultec, and a comp, Ueri 176 etc on to tape and part of the sound would also be the DBX or Dalby noise reduction system.
( God i used to hate the sound that one Frankston studio used to get with everything sounding too thick and gluey.....i put it down to the DBX processing)
I'm throwing this into the ring ,hoping someone with first hand knowledge can enlighten my assumptions with a few facts.
any way about 70's acoustic guitar recording....in the 70's i did much more playing than recording so i'm no expert but here's my take:
The fundamental is the guitar...the best you can get your hands on, and not just because it has a "NAME". The guitar would almost certainly be a Martin, often a pre war vintage, or a Guild or Gibson. The player wound not pick the guitar just from the name brand but would play many of the same model and pick the one that sounded head and shoulders above the rest. I was working at Maton mid 70's and the player that wanted a great guitar would play all the guitars from a few batches over a month or so and pick the best. I did this by keeping the best guitars i bought and selling on the ones that were so so.
Recording wise, and i'm no authority here, so i assume it was fairly standard, what ever desk the studio had through one (or two) of the many great mics, Neuman KM 85 or 84 or U47 or U87 or AKG 451 , maybe through a pultec, and a comp, Ueri 176 etc on to tape and part of the sound would also be the DBX or Dalby noise reduction system.
( God i used to hate the sound that one Frankston studio used to get with everything sounding too thick and gluey.....i put it down to the DBX processing)
I'm throwing this into the ring ,hoping someone with first hand knowledge can enlighten my assumptions with a few facts.
Chris Hallam.
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Whatever floats your boat.
https://soundcloud.com/hallamsound
Whatever floats your boat.
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Hi i cant really comment on astrovics question, but i would really like to know how they got that "motown" sound that the funk brothers produced. from what i can find out all you need is a few room mics, the cabs miced up and two o/heads on the drums. oh that and a basement in detroit with brick walls and a dirt floor. which sadly i'm lacking. the dirt floor i mean....in detroit....with the funk brothers playing my stuff.
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