how early in the mix process.. do you start adding verb?

[Wiz]

question says it all...

would be interested to hear everyones approaches...

[Text_Edifice]

Pretty early on, I like mixing into spaces (real and imagined) rather than treating verb as an effect. So it's integral.

[Drumstruck]

After the repairs and balance of the primary instruments - and before the "filler" instruments. But I'm old school and reverb is still my favourite "effect".

[gigpiglet]

bit like the other guys id say
fairly early - once I've got a good "solid" basic mix up i have something to dial into
i may change and use other reverbs later once i know what "fits"
but the basic one usually gets in there pretty quickly

i find vocalists start asking for it pretty soon if you don't anyway

and drums often sound "flat" without at least a bit (depending on how they were recorded of course)

its definitely not an afterthought i guess is my point.

[NathS101]

When mixing in the studio, for TV broadcast or monitors for live gigs I like bringing up the room mics to create a 'space' early on, if it isn't the first thing I do, then mix everything into that.
Whether it's a stereo mic in a drum room or ambience mics + audience spot mics in an arena I find it helps to craft the instruments to fit into the space (frequency, stereo field & depth) instead of pulling a full mix then trying to cram the room in.
However when it comes to verb & effects I'll generally process the instruments/vocals first, then work on the verbs/fx and finally balance the mix by mixing into the verbs/fx.