Weird topic, silent hi hats

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Weird topic, silent hi hats

Postby Dave77 » Fri Feb 26, 2016 7:33 pm

Ok, I have been recording individual drum parts for certain projects, ie without cymbals, then over dubbing hats or cymbals after.
I am a shit drummer so I find it's easier to keep in with the click if I can hit something while tracking the kick and snare parts.
So I've just been air drumming with the right hand and doing my best to keep time with the kick and snare parts but it just doesn't feel right...
As soon as I move to playing all in takes my performance is much better and less sterile.
My idea is to have something very quiet to hit with my right hand to help keep rhythm for a natural performance, and something that doesn't bleed into other Mics

Is this crazy ??? Normal ??? Or somewhere in between?

Any branded thing that can be purchased ?
Or anyone ever made something like this out of foam from Clark Rubber or something?

I feel like this may be a dumb post but I'm sure I'm not totally alone here.

Any ideas or solutions appreciated,

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Re: Weird topic, silent hi hats

Postby Kurt » Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:37 am

No idea what these are actually like, but I saved the link months ago to check out...

Otherwise, what about using an e-kit "hat" you'll get a thud thud thud but much less spill than with real hats I would guess?

https://zildjian.com/cymbals/cymbal-fam ... ymbal-sets
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Re: Weird topic, silent hi hats

Postby Dave77 » Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:10 am

Thanks kurt, they look interesting, but I'm
Thinking more on the rubber,foam and dead quiet side .
Those are described as 80 per cent quieter, they'd be great for something though..
I guess I should just build something and try it out

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Re: Weird topic, silent hi hats

Postby Drumstruck » Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:55 am

You could try using:

- a lambswool bass drum beater on your leg......

- your hand in a glove tapping (lightly) on your leg.....

- a soft mallet on a rubber practice pad....

......another drummer ;-)
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Re: Weird topic, silent hi hats

Postby Dave77 » Sat Feb 27, 2016 2:55 pm

I think another drummer is a great idea, thanks...
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Re: Weird topic, silent hi hats

Postby rightintheface » Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:41 pm

inside of pillows/etc is best for this kind of thing, so you get no impact at all. You won't get the bounce-back though, which might affect your playing.
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Re: Weird topic, silent hi hats

Postby walding » Mon Feb 29, 2016 5:50 pm

Trick.

If you use a rubber mat or a fake rubber hats, mic it up.

Record it out of phase with your OH's so in theory if there is any bleed it should null.

Also you can use it to trigger samples should you want/need to.

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Re: Weird topic, silent hi hats

Postby Dave77 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:42 pm

Thank you Mark,
I thought of that concept,I appreciate you taking the time to comment..
I've ended up with some good takes that feel good.
I've always recorded all in takes, but this song is a different thing, got me thinking about making myself more comfortable playing this way..
I also thought that it would be good for visiting drummers to get a good performance out of them when taking this approach to tracking drums in the future ....
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