RMG 911 and 900?

[mfdu]

ok. so i remember there were previously comments about early batches of RMG experiencing shedding issues.

how are folks going with it?

also, which RMG to choose? are they both high-output 499/GP9 type levels?

for rock, i like quantegy 499, in terms of it having a smoother distortion curve than GP9.

please let me know your thoughts - i just don't have the funds to truely experiment on my own . . .

respect,
chris
mfdu

[rick]

i heard 301 had a recent tape disaster with the new stuff , but its just this weeks rumour
(confirmed but not mine to talk about)

i have a session from new zealand next week which is on that stuff so i am crossing my fingers

[NYMo]

Hi there,

Steve (from Blevins) ex MCI reckons its real crap !

http://www.recordingconsoles.net/consoles/consoles.htm

Go to Recording consoles and equip.

Scroll down to RMG.

Looks like the problems are wide spread.

Cheers
N
Y
M
O

[mfdu]

thanks for that NYMO.

so is ATR available in Aus yet?

(just small fry - i want 499 1/4" pancake, but prahran cassette and tape only has it on reels . . .)

but at least i have found that the 900 is the high output (presumably equiv. to 499 or GP9, but i can't find out more because the RMG data sheet PDF's are corrupted . . . intentionally?)

chris
mfdu

[mfdu]

unfortunately the RMG data sheets are corrupted, but this is of interest - review of the 468 formulation.

http://www.rmgi-usa.com/pdf/rmgi_dorsey_468review.pdf

when it gets down to it though, it's really just a marketing excercise . . .

chris

[Brent]

Go to the Aus site for datasheets.

http://www.rmgi.com.au/RMGI_Products.htm

Atr isn't available in 1/4" yet, aparently it's on the table as is Aus distribution.

Brent

[michael]

I've used a couple of rolls of 1/4" 911 and it's been really good so far

[Brent]

We've been through about 15 cartons of sm900 2" and have had a problem with one carton of 14"'s and another single 10" . A problem reel is very apparent as soon you put tones on with the short wavelength tones wandering from the spacing loss of the buildup. Also impossible to erase from the gunk on the erase head. Both oxide and backcoating are problematic pointing to the binder. Neither show any displacement when doing the scotch magic tape thing (old ampex trick - stick magic tape to the oxide and rip it off) nor if you drag it across a sharp right angle. RMGI are replacing it.

We were told they've improved their binder chemistry with the new improved versions available soon. When it works it sounds fine although it's a bit physically dirtier than quantegy, much like how emtec was. Asperity noise is low and print-through performance is fine.

The slitting is excellent, being able to hold 20K stable across all tracks summed to stereo when adjusting azimuth. Couldn't always do that with quantegy.

The hubs and flanges could be improved. The hubs dont fit the hold-down adapters as snuggly as quantegy or emtec reels and the flanges aren't a tight fit to the hubs, quite often being screwed down slightly off-centre. Not a big deal for a constant tension machine, just annoying.

Brent

[mfdu]

I've used a couple of rolls of 1/4" 911 and it's been really good so far

so how do you feel it sounds? compare it to a quantegy for me. hows the distortion curve feel? is it deep and smooth like 456, or abrupt and snappy like GP9?

911 is the equiv bias to 456, isn't it?

regards,

chris
mfdu

[michael]

I've used a couple of rolls of 1/4" 911 and it's been really good so far

so how do you feel it sounds? compare it to a quantegy for me. hows the distortion curve feel? is it deep and smooth like 456, or abrupt and snappy like GP9?

911 is the equiv bias to 456, isn't it?

regards,

chris
mfdu

yeah 911 is the equiv bias to 456 but I never used enough 456 to accurately to compare - I'm not a big tape user, just a hobbist. Brent's reply is much more useful.

[Brent]

FWIW ATR now have distribution through Grevillea in QLD. Prices are coming this week.

One thing I forgot to add above is to check the tape wrap with the RMGI tape. I've found the wrap characteristics to be slightly different than GP9. A bloke on the Studer list found the same thing with 1/2" 911 on an ATR-102 (mainly on repro head) although I found it with 2" 900 mainly on the erase head (A800).

Also sounded like I was insinuating the binder is the same for the oxide and the backcoating in the post above. Wasn't meant to (should have added an s to binder). It was interesting though that when the tape was falling apart on the oxide side it was dirty as all hell on the backcoating side too, so maybe there is some common element.

That's enough tape nerd shit for this week, I'm starting to feel dirty.

Brent