Are these fake?

[Futureman]

I'm guessing so, for that price.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2-Shure-Beta-87A ... dZViewItem

I wouldn't mind a Beta87.. but i'd like to be Shure.. (Bad Pun)

[Roy]

Seems too good to be true.

[Thirteen]

Feedback of 91 as a buyer, zero as a seller, no feedback in the last 12 months. Probably this would be a good auction to bid on if you were going to pick up the items yourself and pay on delivery... Don't want to think the worst of the seller, but there are fake Shures out there, even the seller might not know if they were fakes. The price is very low, why sell genuine mic's for so little?

[tunetown]

Invalid Item. Obviously fake.

[Futureman]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... :IT&ih=006

What about these.. more of the same..

[TimS]

Gee, that is almost an exact copy of the previous auction...
Different username tho..

[NYMo]

Hi there,

A friend I was talking to today bought 3 of them !

Interesting to see whether he gets them.

Cheers
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www.myspace.com/redberryrecords

[Howard Jones]

This second lot are also fakes. The wording of the ad is identical to the first, down to the misspellings. I have reported this listing to Jands.

They tell me that they have had some of these come in for repair, from people not realising that they are fakes. When they were opened up in the service department, they were found to be dynamics!

[Futureman]

they were found to be dynamics!

"Wow guys, this Mic works without phantom power! Must be a new design from Shure!"

[TimS]

they were found to be dynamics!

"Wow guys, this Mic works without phantom power! Must be a new design from Shure!"

LOL

[Aearth]

they were found to be dynamics!

"Wow guys, this Mic works without phantom power! Must be a new design from Shure!"

Wow what a great idea, I need to get into these, that phantom power stuff really blurs the mix.

nIC

[Simon B]

[quote="Futureman"][quote="Howard Jones"] they were found to be dynamics![/quote]


"Wow guys, this Mic works without phantom power! Must be a new design from Shure!"[/quote]

has anyone ever modded an sm7 to take phantom power? I am intrigued as to how it would sound like, I know a metal guy that loves the sm7 but he really has to be at the grill, and I figure adding modding it to take phantom power would make it more sensitive.

[Roy]

That would just be incredibly silly. A dynamic works very different to a condenser. Ever wondered what phantom power actually does? Google it... you'll probably find some good diagrams somewhere.

[Simon B]

[quote="Roy"]That would just be incredibly silly. A dynamic works very different to a condenser. Ever wondered what phantom power actually does? Google it... you'll probably find some good diagrams somewhere.[/quote]

So this is the state of audio forums is it? Thanks Roy for keeping an open mind

I never said changing it to make it a capacatince mic, but more keeping it a dynamic and making it passive by changing the the transformer. which I think would make it more sensitive.

you have never been curious about trying things left of the middle? wondered what it would sound like if it did this? the reason I visit here is because it isnt like other forums, it is relativley open minded.

starting a flame war over the internet is not something that interests me, I dont care for it. respsonse like that will make this place exactly like every other forum.

[smash]

FYI: Blue makes an "Active Dynamic", or at least a Dynamic that requires phantom to operate.

Basically the mic includes a phantom-powered active balancing circuit in the output stage :-)

Therotically, you could probably include the same sort of electronics in the SM7.

[Roy]

Whoa man! Back off! I wasn't having a go at you? Chill out. Didn't mean it to sound 'closed minded'. Please show mercy on me! Geez!

That sounds more like it, Smash. I just thought it makes no sense to mod something to 'take phantom power'. Rather... you mod something- and then maybe (or maybe not) you require phantom power to make the circuit operate.

[NYMo]

Hi there,

Well my friend actually did get his...yet to see whether they are condensers or dynamics.

Cheers
N
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www.myspace.com/redberryrecords

[no-fi]

I never said changing it to make it a capacatince mic, but more keeping it a dynamic and making it passive by changing the the transformer. which I think would make it more sensitive.

...naaah... you mentioned (2 posts above this very post!!) adding phantom power.
that's a very different thing to changing the transformer.

But yeah.. phantom power could be added. if you do that, all you are doing is putting a preamp stage inside the mic. before you go down the line.

you need to do this with condensor mics because 0) any condensor mic element apart from an electret needs a polarising voltage to work, anyway. 1) they have a very tiny signal coming off the element, and 2) because the output impenence from the element is very very high... running the condensor element with no electronics on even a meter of cable would not be good. Putting an amplifier to buffer the signal and boost the level in there fixes that. But dynamic mics have a strong enough output that this isn't strictly necessary. (though as mentioned above - people have done it before)

Probably the best and simplest mod for your friends SM7, to address the problem he has, is to run it into a better mic pre, with more gain.
:-)

you have never been curious about trying things left of the middle? wondered what it would sound like if it did this? the reason I visit here is because it isnt like other forums, it is relativley open minded.

I've read a bunch of interesting stuff online about various mic experiments... especially on SM-57s. But haven't tried any of them yet, because I don't have many mics, and none of them I want to risk killing.... and I don't really record much involving mics (yet!) anyway... so not confident the time it'd take is worth the difference it'd make to me, yet.

if you really want to learn all about mics, there's a yahoo group called micbuilders. it's full of all sorts of amazing microphone nerds who have all sorts of fun with mic modifications, and even building them from scratch... I'm on there, but I just lurk... soaking it allllll in.
:)

[HA_DA_JA]

My brother bought these and Ebay sent him this message a short time later.

"Hello daniel869900 (I deleted his email address inserted here),

The listing for the following item you bid on has been removed:

110277044941 - *NEW* Lot of 2 Shure Beta 87A Vocal Pro Microphones!

We removed the listing and cancelled your bid because it appears that the seller's account was used by someone without their permission. The seller's trading privileges may be temporarily suspended while we investigate this further. Due to privacy concerns, we can't provide the details.

eBay strongly recommends you do not go through with this purchase. Purchases of items listed on eBay but completed outside the eBay site are risky. They are not covered by PayPal Buyer Protection and are highly susceptible to fraud.

If you have already paid for this item but haven't received it, you need to act quickly to get your money back.

- Contact your bank to stop payment if you paid by cheque or bank deposit.
- Contact your credit card company if you paid by credit card.
- If you paid with PayPal, you may be eligible for up to $3,000 through the PayPal Buyer Protection Program. To submit a PayPal Buyer Protection claim, open an Item Not Received dispute at:

http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/tp/inr-snad-process.html

If you have any questions, please contact us at:

http://pages.ebay.com.au/contact_ebay.html

Regards,

eBay Trust & Safety team

[Mark Bassett]

eBay Trust & Safety team?

Is that what they call themselves?

How Orwellian.

[mfdu]

thank you for your compliance, citizen.

[NYMo]

hi there,

Turned out that my friends mics were dynamic !
He says they sound pretty good (better than his Beta 58) but he is trying to get his money back anyway....good luck to him !

Cheers
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[NYMo]

Hi there,

BTW...I went aound there today to have a look at them....Christ...you'd be hard pressed to know if they were fakes or not.
All the documentation was there (made in mexico etc) full instructions, box labels etc

I'm still trying to work out why the con job ?
It would cost somebody a bloody fortune to manufacture all this and then sell them for $100 each....
I suppose some people will go to any lengths !

Cheers
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[Kurt]

I got a fake 58 ages ago, it looked exactly the same, including paperwork etc. The pencil case was wrong though, smaller and thinner than a real one (maybe a 57 case?)

The only non-audible difference: it was quite a bit lighter-weight.

I think I paid $60 or $70 including shipping for it. It actually sounds pretty good at low volumes, brighter than a 58, but breaks up and distorts when people start yelling at it.

Now my talkback mic.

[qiktune]

I got a fake 58 ages ago, it looked exactly the same, including paperwork etc. The pencil case was wrong though, smaller and thinner than a real one (maybe a 57 case?)

Thanks for admitting the above Kurt, I got sucked into a fake 58 a while back and have been too ashamed to tell anyone....but now I'm not as embarrassed to be "outed".

[rumblemania]

[quote="HA_DA_JA"]My brother bought these and Ebay sent him this message a short time later.

"Hello daniel869900 (I deleted his email address inserted here),

The listing for the following item you bid on has been removed:

110277044941 - *NEW* Lot of 2 Shure Beta 87A Vocal Pro Microphones!

We removed the listing and cancelled your bid because it appears that the seller's account was used by someone without their permission. The seller's trading privileges may be temporarily suspended while we investigate this further. Due to privacy concerns, we can't provide the details.

eBay strongly recommends you do not go through with this purchase. Purchases of items listed on eBay but completed outside the eBay site are risky. They are not covered by PayPal Buyer Protection and are highly susceptible to fraud.

If you have already paid for this item but haven't received it, you need to act quickly to get your money back.

- Contact your bank to stop payment if you paid by cheque or bank deposit.
- Contact your credit card company if you paid by credit card.
- If you paid with PayPal, you may be eligible for up to $3,000 through the PayPal Buyer Protection Program. To submit a PayPal Buyer Protection claim, open an Item Not Received dispute at:

http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/tp/inr-snad-process.html

If you have any questions, please contact us at:

http://pages.ebay.com.au/contact_ebay.html

Regards,

eBay Trust & Safety team[/quote]

sadly enough i was suckered into this too, and this was i email i received also!!

[Simon B]

I have left this thread for a while, just so I could kind of be of sound mind

first of all my apologies to everyone, my reaction was completely uncalled for and over the top.

secondly the thing I find is in my mind I know where I think it is at, I just cant express where I am heading with it, and on top of that I am an insomniac and have been for about 10 years and my reaction was after 3 days of no sleep.

to roy and everyone that read it I apologise.

[Roy]

No worries man!

[Aearth]

Welcome back Simon.
It's all those newbies fault, coming here with their gutter talk. Obviously north shore types.

:)

nIC