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Ricks Tube article
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Ricks Tube article
Here we go it all starts now.
You know I never got the whole warm thing with tube stuff in Pro audio.
Sure I play guitar and I can hear the immense difference between valve and solid state amps as I own quite a few of each.
But when I first bought some valve gear for the studio I was trying to hear that warm sound it was suppose to have and I did not get it. Consequently I sold
a lot of my valve gear.
Now when I use what valve gear I have, I notice like Rick said is that some of it is super quiet and super clean.
One of these pieces is the old P series TL Audio preamps. Its just nice and clean and quiet .
When I use my Tube Tech stuff (which seems not very often and I wonder why I still have it), its just nice and clean and quiet.
Even some of the valve mics I own are just clean and quiet - well maybe not the Chinese one I have. I would say it has to be on par with my vacuum cleaner.
So I hope that Rick does not end up getting flamed for his article just by expressing his observations from his years of experience within this industry.
You know I never got the whole warm thing with tube stuff in Pro audio.
Sure I play guitar and I can hear the immense difference between valve and solid state amps as I own quite a few of each.
But when I first bought some valve gear for the studio I was trying to hear that warm sound it was suppose to have and I did not get it. Consequently I sold
a lot of my valve gear.
Now when I use what valve gear I have, I notice like Rick said is that some of it is super quiet and super clean.
One of these pieces is the old P series TL Audio preamps. Its just nice and clean and quiet .
When I use my Tube Tech stuff (which seems not very often and I wonder why I still have it), its just nice and clean and quiet.
Even some of the valve mics I own are just clean and quiet - well maybe not the Chinese one I have. I would say it has to be on par with my vacuum cleaner.
So I hope that Rick does not end up getting flamed for his article just by expressing his observations from his years of experience within this industry.
Dale Smith
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i have my flack jacket on , but nobody who throws grenades will be correct .
i am 100% sure of that article
its been on my mind for many years
here is a photo of the new line stage for the weiss maya converter here at turtlerock
its real tubes :)
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxPEC5S
i am 100% sure of that article
its been on my mind for many years
here is a photo of the new line stage for the weiss maya converter here at turtlerock
its real tubes :)
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxPEC5S
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rick, we can see the photo on the forum, but when you click on it, it doesn't enlarge, that's all.
btw, emoticons have been intentionally disabled, as I hate them.
btw, emoticons have been intentionally disabled, as I hate them.
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Nice VU meters, you dont have any spare do you?
Just add another 0 on that offer on the Tube Tech and you could be getting very close to me selling it.
Angus the article is available for free online at the audio technology website. You need to open to page 40 on the latest issue.
Cheers
Just add another 0 on that offer on the Tube Tech and you could be getting very close to me selling it.
Angus the article is available for free online at the audio technology website. You need to open to page 40 on the latest issue.
Cheers
Dale Smith
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Tubes is just another flavour. You like/you dont like, you use/you dont use. But somee things I like about tubes is that they are fun. They warm cold studios. They glow in the dark. I just dont get this from plug ins. And I forgot they have knobs, lots of big knobs. I think my next child will be a tube, possibly twins. Norm
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Mark Andrew Bassett wrote:rick, we can see the photo on the forum, but when you click on it, it doesn't enlarge, that's all.
btw, emoticons have been intentionally disabled, as I hate them.
Thats what I meant - thanks Mark! :-)
I can see it on the thread (PC with Firefox) but it doesnt open when you click on the image!
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HA_DA_JA wrote:Nice VU meters, you dont have any spare do you?
Just add another 0 on that offer on the Tube Tech and you could be getting very close to me selling it.
Angus the article is available for free online at the audio technology website. You need to open to page 40 on the latest issue.
Cheers
those vu meters were secretly modelled on my turtlerock logo ( as a surprise for me by weiss/maya !)
custom made on a limited run by sifam
there are just 20 in the world and they are only for the tube section of the convertors ,
there will never be any more .
if Maya sold you a pair , they would cost you about $1000 each !
err so no there are none spare :)
the tubes are custom made maya 300b - the actual unit is still in transit so i will post up more when it arrives
there will be no emoticons, and no votes either , this forums rules are run the same way the bills get paid to hosts it
at my muse :)
ever seen an add here ?
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Not that my opinion counts for anything, but I think not having emoticons is way better then having them.
So now back to those meters - when can we see the rip off versions hitting the streets? JOKE
So now back to those meters - when can we see the rip off versions hitting the streets? JOKE
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I really liked the article, but the part that i liked the most was the comment at the end about putting limited controls on the gear that make it work in it's best setting. I see people going mad adding 23 release times to old varimu comps and thinking it must be better because you have so many more options, yet a lot of old gear was designed with limited controls because outside of certain parameters they don't really sound so good. More is not necessarily better..
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go to
www.audiotechnology.com.au
Click on left hand side showing issue 70 with the big pictures of the neuman mic family.
This will open the e-book.
At the bottom on the e-book you will see a rectangle with 3 dots • • •
Click on the last dot and wait for the page to show up.
It should be page 40-41. Page 40has the last page of Ricks article.
If you go to the left of the article it will highlight a back arrow that you can then press and it will go back to pages 38-39 where the article starts.
Cheers
www.audiotechnology.com.au
Click on left hand side showing issue 70 with the big pictures of the neuman mic family.
This will open the e-book.
At the bottom on the e-book you will see a rectangle with 3 dots • • •
Click on the last dot and wait for the page to show up.
It should be page 40-41. Page 40has the last page of Ricks article.
If you go to the left of the article it will highlight a back arrow that you can then press and it will go back to pages 38-39 where the article starts.
Cheers
Dale Smith
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Wow Rick. Good article. Its inspired me to go down in to my basement and finally make a start to clean up all my old neumans. haha!
Its a dirty job but someones gotta do it.
Its a dirty job but someones gotta do it.
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HA_DA_JA wrote:go to
www.audiotechnology.com.au
Click on left hand side showing issue 70 with the big pictures of the neuman mic family.
This will open the e-book.
At the bottom on the e-book you will see a rectangle with 3 dots • • •
Click on the last dot and wait for the page to show up.
It should be page 40-41. Page 40has the last page of Ricks article.
If you go to the left of the article it will highlight a back arrow that you can then press and it will go back to pages 38-39 where the article starts.
Cheers
Thanks Dale, for some reason that page hasn't been fully loading for me........until 5 minutes ago. I had actually started to type "Thanks for trying to help, etc.,etc." and then decided to give it one more go.........lo and behold I actually started to see what you had described so I'm now reading Rick's article.
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Did you guys notice that next to Ricks article there was an ad for an Art tube mic pre and tube mic? coincidence?
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