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Ricks Tube article

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:43 pm
by HA_DA_JA
Here we go it all starts now.
You know I never got the whole warm thing with tube stuff in Pro audio.
Sure I play guitar and I can hear the immense difference between valve and solid state amps as I own quite a few of each.
But when I first bought some valve gear for the studio I was trying to hear that warm sound it was suppose to have and I did not get it. Consequently I sold
a lot of my valve gear.
Now when I use what valve gear I have, I notice like Rick said is that some of it is super quiet and super clean.
One of these pieces is the old P series TL Audio preamps. Its just nice and clean and quiet .
When I use my Tube Tech stuff (which seems not very often and I wonder why I still have it), its just nice and clean and quiet.
Even some of the valve mics I own are just clean and quiet - well maybe not the Chinese one I have. I would say it has to be on par with my vacuum cleaner.
So I hope that Rick does not end up getting flamed for his article just by expressing his observations from his years of experience within this industry.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:22 pm
by heathen
Seeing Rick does'nt drink grog I guess he just needed a big whiff of paint fumes to get that off his chest. What would he say on happy gas? heh :)

Anyway I won't disagree.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:00 pm
by rick
i have my flack jacket on , but nobody who throws grenades will be correct .
i am 100% sure of that article
its been on my mind for many years
here is a photo of the new line stage for the weiss maya converter here at turtlerock
its real tubes :)
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxPEC5S

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:03 pm
by TimS
link to image is broken...

... grenades too, not granades!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:21 pm
by rick
seems to work here

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:30 pm
by TimS
rick wrote:seems to work here

it just links to postimage.com, not to the direct file.. just letting you know..

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:46 pm
by heathen
Is that part of the Maya package or a Turtlerock custom line amp? Of course it's got real tubes geez. heh Now spill the beanz, c'mon.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:50 pm
by heathen
I'll buy your Tubetech stuff for $300 if you're not using it Dale. :)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:33 pm
by rick
hey who here can see that photo of the tube line stage of the maya /weiss converter

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:38 pm
by Barney Loveland
Can see it here, Mac with Firefox if that is any help?

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:45 pm
by Mark Bassett
rick, we can see the photo on the forum, but when you click on it, it doesn't enlarge, that's all.

btw, emoticons have been intentionally disabled, as I hate them.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:29 am
by HA_DA_JA
Nice VU meters, you dont have any spare do you?
Just add another 0 on that offer on the Tube Tech and you could be getting very close to me selling it.
Angus the article is available for free online at the audio technology website. You need to open to page 40 on the latest issue.
Cheers

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:03 am
by norm
Tubes is just another flavour. You like/you dont like, you use/you dont use. But somee things I like about tubes is that they are fun. They warm cold studios. They glow in the dark. I just dont get this from plug ins. And I forgot they have knobs, lots of big knobs. I think my next child will be a tube, possibly twins. Norm

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:24 am
by heathen
C'mon Mark they are'nt that bad. ImageImage

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:48 am
by NYMo
Hi there,

I luv the smell of toobs in the morning !
(Only if I leave the Vari mu on overnight !..DoH!)

Cheers
N
Y
M
O

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:47 am
by TimS
Mark Andrew Bassett wrote:rick, we can see the photo on the forum, but when you click on it, it doesn't enlarge, that's all.

btw, emoticons have been intentionally disabled, as I hate them.

Thats what I meant - thanks Mark! :-)
I can see it on the thread (PC with Firefox) but it doesnt open when you click on the image!

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:11 pm
by rick
HA_DA_JA wrote:Nice VU meters, you dont have any spare do you?
Just add another 0 on that offer on the Tube Tech and you could be getting very close to me selling it.
Angus the article is available for free online at the audio technology website. You need to open to page 40 on the latest issue.
Cheers


those vu meters were secretly modelled on my turtlerock logo ( as a surprise for me by weiss/maya !)
custom made on a limited run by sifam
there are just 20 in the world and they are only for the tube section of the convertors ,
there will never be any more .

if Maya sold you a pair , they would cost you about $1000 each !

err so no there are none spare :)

the tubes are custom made maya 300b - the actual unit is still in transit so i will post up more when it arrives

there will be no emoticons, and no votes either , this forums rules are run the same way the bills get paid to hosts it
at my muse :)
ever seen an add here ?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:14 pm
by HA_DA_JA
Not that my opinion counts for anything, but I think not having emoticons is way better then having them.
So now back to those meters - when can we see the rip off versions hitting the streets? JOKE

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:36 pm
by heathen
Custom Mmmmmmmmaya, nice.

Ok no more silly emoticons.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:45 pm
by Chinagraf
I really liked the article, but the part that i liked the most was the comment at the end about putting limited controls on the gear that make it work in it's best setting. I see people going mad adding 23 release times to old varimu comps and thinking it must be better because you have so many more options, yet a lot of old gear was designed with limited controls because outside of certain parameters they don't really sound so good. More is not necessarily better..

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:00 pm
by heathen
I hope we can stil use descriptions such as wider, bigger, fatter, chunkier, otherwise I'm going to have to broaden my vocabulary.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:38 pm
by Ausrock
<-------feels left out.

Can't see any pics, can't find the online version of the article as refered to by Dale
:-(

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:18 am
by HA_DA_JA
go to
www.audiotechnology.com.au
Click on left hand side showing issue 70 with the big pictures of the neuman mic family.
This will open the e-book.
At the bottom on the e-book you will see a rectangle with 3 dots • • •
Click on the last dot and wait for the page to show up.
It should be page 40-41. Page 40has the last page of Ricks article.
If you go to the left of the article it will highlight a back arrow that you can then press and it will go back to pages 38-39 where the article starts.
Cheers

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:00 am
by 13thbeach
Wow Rick. Good article. Its inspired me to go down in to my basement and finally make a start to clean up all my old neumans. haha!

Its a dirty job but someones gotta do it.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:08 am
by Chinagraf
Hey Rick, did you name your 47 "Steve" for any reason?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:46 pm
by Ausrock
HA_DA_JA wrote:go to
www.audiotechnology.com.au
Click on left hand side showing issue 70 with the big pictures of the neuman mic family.
This will open the e-book.
At the bottom on the e-book you will see a rectangle with 3 dots • • •
Click on the last dot and wait for the page to show up.
It should be page 40-41. Page 40has the last page of Ricks article.
If you go to the left of the article it will highlight a back arrow that you can then press and it will go back to pages 38-39 where the article starts.
Cheers


Thanks Dale, for some reason that page hasn't been fully loading for me........until 5 minutes ago. I had actually started to type "Thanks for trying to help, etc.,etc." and then decided to give it one more go.........lo and behold I actually started to see what you had described so I'm now reading Rick's article.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:27 pm
by HA_DA_JA
It's not very often I have the ability to help someone so it was a pleasure.
Though I am going out to buy the magazine.
Cheers

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:28 am
by TimS
Article was a good read. Most enjoyable.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:53 pm
by waitup
Did you guys notice that next to Ricks article there was an ad for an Art tube mic pre and tube mic? coincidence?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:57 pm
by rick
i havent heard about it yet , but i bet they will be pissed !