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Finest Speaker Ever: JBL....?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:26 pm
by jkhuri44

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:34 pm
by heathen
You'd buy em too if you $80,000 spare? Drool drool, heh.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:28 pm
by rick
yeah maybe the finest speaker jbl ever made :)

i cannot wait untill the new speaker system is setup in the new turtlerock

in ours the super tweeter is omni and goes up to 390 k - just incase we ever figure out a way to make or hear a noise that high !
and the omni tweeter costs 30 k ! and weighs 26 kg !

that said its taken us long time to get this far and the sytsem still doesnt make noise yet ( mostley coz i havent paid for al the bits but thats another story ...)

but as they say i just cannot wait any faster :)

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:50 pm
by Ben M
rick wrote: the super tweeter is omni and goes up to 390 k


Hi Rick
Why does it stretch that high? What's the point? Are you making some sort of high freq sound cannon?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:19 pm
by Ausrock
Ben Moore wrote:
rick wrote:the super tweeter is omni and goes up to 390 k


Hi Rick
Why does it stretch that high?
Cause it can.

Ben Moore wrote: What's the point?
God only knows...........and that may even be a stretch

Ben Moore wrote:Are you making some sort of high freq sound cannon?
No, he's making some of us salivate ;-)

PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:30 am
by heathen
Ben Moore wrote:
rick wrote: the super tweeter is omni and goes up to 390 k


Hi Rick
Why does it stretch that high? What's the point? Are you making some sort of high freq sound cannon?


No no, Rick can actually hear that high, he has bionic ears. :)

PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:31 am
by musikwerks
They're really heavy. I was surprised when I looked at them vs actually picking them up. I'm also looking forward to hearing the new speaker system. 7 foot of sound comin' at ya from each side has to do something cool.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:48 am
by Chinagraf
It will certainly keep you regular..

PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:55 am
by Ben M
I don't think there will be a dog within a 20 km radius of Rick's new studio. Those tweeters are going to make sure of that.

I was interested, is it one tweeter facing upwards or a few of them in a circle facing directly outwards to make it omni, or....?


:)

PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:59 pm
by DwaneHollands
I heard these Bowers and Wilkins Nautilus speakers are $250K per single. (unpowered)

http://www.bowers-wilkins.com/display.aspx?infid=1457

Maaannnnnn.....you'd want to hear the difference wouldn't ya! "I think I'll mix in mono from now on, cause I can't afford the other speaker"

PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:20 pm
by Chris H
The best part of that link was finding the Real Worlds winter sampler and listening to a few great recordings, esp Charlie Winston.
Listening through those B&W's would be a bit of a step up from what i'm used to though!

PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:22 pm
by Thirteen
The huge tweeter frequency response is so the if Chuck Norris comes in to get something mastered, it won't sound muffled to him.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:51 am
by rick
I have absolutelty no idea why, or how They go that high
what I would play on them to check the freq response or how I would even check the freq response

there is not a commerical mic that can record about 40 and most cannot really record above 15 k

But my amps , my console and now my converters can go that high so why not the speakers
if I am going to play the fool I might as well get totally wet!

so if I can just find something to playback and someone to hear it that high it will be all good:)

reality is because they are omni( they work on this wired spun titaniam orb diffusser)
that is put in place to scatter the upperharmonics
instead of " pinpointing" them as the other tweeter does
does it sound any good..?
Not yet I haven't heard it
if there is no difference they will be going back to the factory untill they do

PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:34 am
by Howard Jones
I've got a dog I can lend you for tweeter evaluation... Rupert would love your style.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:40 am
by NYMo
Hi there,

Rick you are one of Australia's great audiophiles !

Is there anyone else in Australia that has a better speaker system and room than you ?
Not to mention the D/A of course.

Will your rates move upwards?

Cheers

N
Y
M
O

PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:17 pm
by no-fi
hmm... so, whats the frequency response of air? I'd be expecting a bit of roll-off in the medium here...


anyway - you want to drive your system at 390k, buy a test oscillator. even a basic one should go to 1MHz. and then any old CRO will check the whole path right up to your speakers...

if I had to make a 390k sound receiver, I'd be looking at some kind of piezo element. I used to work for a company designing hydrographic equipment, and designed a 200k echosounder using a "standard" (hydrographic survey standard) piezo transducer, no problems. I don't see double that frequency being impossible.

if the tweeters are simple enough design (ie just basic electroaccoustic elements - not powered, for a start!) you could possibly use one of them as a transmitter and the other as a receiver. then wire the receiver into some high bandwidth amp module (a video amp?? do you have mic preamps on your 390k desk?) for gain..

but yeah... not knowing anything about your $30k tweeters, I'd be really really really cautious about running any high frequency tests on them.. would hate to blow one!

PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:04 pm
by musikwerks
I think the TR Forum has finally arrived.... a Chuck Norris quote!

I have a t-shirt that says "Chuck Norris doesn't sleep.... he waits."

Go Chuck!

PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:10 pm
by rick
i am not an audiophile ! , and i will punch anybody who says i am.... in the nose.. hard

however i really do know the insanity of what i am attempting , i am going to make the best mastering suite ever made
or i wont... which ever works out :)

will the hourly rate be going up ...?
well no i am actually counting on it going down

but that is an entire diatribe that can wait for a while .


personally i feel devising a studio plan where "what i do cannot be done at home " is the only way forward for me

does anybody actually need what i do ..?
well lets wait and see

could they offer it at home ..?
well no

PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:36 pm
by NYMo
[quote]i am not an audiophile ! , and i will punch anybody who says i am.... in the nose.. hard [/quote]

Hi there,

Rick...you won't have any trouble hitting my nose...its huge !

What eclectic audio term would you like to describe yourself as ?

Cheers
N
Y
M
O

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:46 am
by heathen
rick wrote:i am not an audiophile ! , and i will punch anybody who says i am.... in the nose.. hard

however i really do know the insanity of what i am attempting , i am going to make the best mastering suite ever made
or i wont... which ever works out :)

will the hourly rate be going up ...?
well no i am actually counting on it going down

but that is an entire diatribe that can wait for a while .


personally i feel devising a studio plan where "what i do cannot be done at home " is the only way forward for me

does anybody actually need what i do ..?
well lets wait and see

could they offer it at home ..?
well no



New business motto maybe, "Do Not Try This At Home Kids". :)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:06 am
by heathen
Hey Rick how many rooms will you be building in the new place, just out of curiosity?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:33 pm
by rick
NYMo wrote:
i am not an audiophile ! , and i will punch anybody who says i am.... in the nose.. hard



What eclectic audio term would you like to describe yourself as ?

Cheers
N
Y
M
O


unqualified sound mechanic is one of my favorites.


heathen , i am not telling how many rooms i am building :)
- i dont actually know with the last weeks set of dramas maybe none ..?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:56 pm
by Ben M
rick wrote:
NYMo wrote:
i am not an audiophile ! , and i will punch anybody who says i am.... in the nose.. hard



What eclectic audio term would you like to describe yourself as ?

Cheers
N
Y
M
O


- i dont actually know with the last weeks set of dramas maybe none ..?



I'm usually happy with knob twiddler. And then they laugh and it's all funny. hehe. But nobody really knows what we all do. We are all messin with things we mostly have no control over. Hence we are all in search of the things that give us greater control. peace t'rockers.


:)