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Does anyone know of a programming guru (Mac only) that can build a very basic software sampler to run on a mac from multiple midi triggers - and output through PTools outputs - 60 channels of audio - roughly 50 triggers - all independently running from various trigger sources converted into midi notes .
Or is there a really reliable existing software sampler (Mac) that can run in PTools that is stable and can deal with up to 50 notes playing at the same time without falling over.

stupid question,

have you tried NI Kontakt?

Hi Chris

What about running Reason 4 in rewire with individual audio outputs from Reason to Protools? It may fall over but its worth a crack.

Any decent sampler should do it. The key will be getting 60 individual midi sources routed into one machine.

The Tasmanian wrote:Does anyone know of a programming guru (Mac only) that can build a very basic software sampler to run on a mac from multiple midi triggers - and output through PTools outputs - 60 channels of audio - roughly 50 triggers - all independently running from various trigger sources converted into midi notes .
Or is there a really reliable existing software sampler (Mac) that can run in PTools that is stable and can deal with up to 50 notes playing at the same time without falling over.

So let me get this right? Because some of what you say changes in the next sentence.

50 Audio Triggers -> Converted to 50 midi notes -> triggering 50 Audio Samples, with 50 Audio outs..

ie, A drum replacer for 50 Tracks, realtime with 50 individual audio outs?

Maybe if you elaborated on what you needed, someone could help you more.

(Not having a go at you, just wanting clarification)

Regards
Mike

On second thought....

Record all the audio. It will be much easier and you will be sure you don't have any mis-triggers. Then, once recorded just use Drumagog to trigger whatever you need directly in tools.

Much simpler and much safer.

50 triggers are being built that will output 50 midi notes.
Each trigger (midi note) will need to activate samples - of varying lengths - and then samples rout to up to 50 outputs.
This is for a major gallery installation running 10 hours a day 360 days per year. - it has to be rock solid and not fall over, and cope with up to 50 triggers happening at the same time.

The Tasmanian wrote:50 triggers are being built that will output 50 midi notes.
Each trigger (midi note) will need to activate samples - of varying lengths - and then samples rout to up to 50 outputs.
This is for a major gallery installation running 10 hours a day 360 days per year. - it has to be rock solid and not fall over, and cope with up to 50 triggers happening at the same time.

pretty sure Native Instruments Kontakt will be ok with this if using DFD (Direct from, Disk Sampling) as well as using a very powerful computer.

IN terms of RAM, i'd imagine what you'r asking to be not much different to running a few large ensembles off Kontakt.

could make this more stable by running the sampler in stand alone without a Host...i dont think you need Protools for this.

an alternative would be to use MAX/MSP, thats the standard for installation based stuff. if you cant find anything existing that does what u want, I can probably put u in touch with someone that can do what u want

Jamil - is Kontact solid?
Crashing is not an option

With computers, crashing is always an option ;)

The Tasmanian wrote:Jamil - is Kontact solid?
Crashing is not an option

With computers, crashing is always an option
Yes that's pretty obvious (hence no PC's) _ I'm talking about the software's reliability to deal with the tasks

Kurt wrote:With computers, crashing is always an option ;)

The Tasmanian wrote:Jamil - is Kontact solid?
Crashing is not an option

what he said. :-)

hardware sounds more reliable to me.

triggers into hardware sampler...much more solid

is this an option....

u bypass computer, software, Hosts, etc.

Kontkakt is ok for me...i've never run anything with the polyphony ur talking about mainly because I dont own a powerful enough computer at home...

i assume with a beastly Mac or even just a solid one, with very little installed on it, it should run smooth as hell.

Hardware sampler is not an option really - some samples could be an hour or two long - others milliseconds - but most short - up to 8 seconds
Max may be the best option - but I will be doing it in PTools first - and would prefer that platform if possible.

The Tasmanian wrote:Hardware sampler is not an option really - some samples could be an hour or two long - others milliseconds - but most short - up to 8 seconds
Max may be the best option - but I will be doing it in PTools first - and would prefer that platform if possible.

max would probably be the safest option, having protools open would have a rather large load on your system + over laarge periods of time protools will have hissy fits etc. and hardware may or may not drop out with software,,,,

is it not possible to use a hardware sampler connected to an external hardrive to trigger long files?

Jamil - 50 outputs from a hardware sampler?

The Tasmanian wrote:Jamil - 50 outputs from a hardware sampler?

oh shit....forgot that part.

im just srtuggling thinking about a computer that wont crash or f@#$ up somehow over a whole year.

as said before, i reckon give Kontakt a bash on a powerful computer.. could be the go.

You could stack a bunch samplers..

Emu Ultra6400's or Akai S5000/6000/z4's ? Some of these can have adat options = 16 outs each.

If set up right, they could be set to autoload the right program. etc.

If samples have to be 1 hour, you can always play em in a few octaves up, and pitch em down on playback, lower fidelity, but saves on ram.

Mike that's not a bad idea
Protool's could also play the hour long samples - and the hardware samplers the rest.
I am trying to get the piece as maintainance free as possible.
One bootable system would be best though.

you need max/msp. Been doing this sort of installation works for years. Completely rock solid and incredibly flexible 'cause you create your own instrument. I've done work like this and so have many other people in aus.

pm me for more details.

M

Myles - that's what I wanted to hear - rock solid.
I have used Max years ago when it first landed - but then lost the need to use it again.
Why are all the good Max users in Melbourne?
PMing you now.

well Melbourne is THE place to be I guess...

you can also email me at mylester (@) gmail.com no spaces and no () of course.

Myles