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Fake beta57: thumbs up to JANDS

PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:35 pm
by chris p
I bought a Shure Beta57 of evilbay, and noticed it sounded tinny and thin. Sure enough, checking a few other details against a genuine Shure beta57 in the cupboard, it had a lot wrong with it.

Anyway, the point of all this is not evilbay, who after all are now getting my money back for me off a recalcitrant seller, but to say a big thank you to Michael Meissner and the service staff at JANDS - the Oz Shure distributors. Check the JANDS site and you find they will do a free appraisal report if you suspect you've bought a fake. I took the mic in, and 1/2 hr later left with a typed report. Fantastic service. My 58s, 57s and "real" beta57 have all been bought new from dealers, and now I'm even off the grey marketers - JANDS deserves my support.

Thanks too to Howard Jones for pointing me in the right direction to start off.

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 12:45 pm
by Kurt
I bought a 58 off evilbay, it was cheap and definately sounds it! It's tinny, distorts much more easliy than a real one and is much lighter, maybe 2/3rds the weight of a real 58.

Without a real one to compare it too I guess many home studio/hobby PA types would never know.

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 1:02 pm
by Kris
There's a guy on ebay Australia who sells legit shure product. His name is Alan Chan (i think) He used to be a lot cheaper, selling for the Shure MAP (minimum advertised price) but he has put his prices up lately, maybe so he's not confused with the counterfeiters. May be worth checking him out. He's in Epping.

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:43 pm
by chris p
Yeah Kurt, I'm giving my seller the benefit of the doubt and putting him/her in the "didn't know the difference" category. One lesson for me is the next time I hear someone bag a Shure mic as having crappy sound is to quiz them on where they bought it. I'm not saying they are the absolute best mic around, but they do what they do well.

Kris, I've never dealt with Alan Chan, but my understanding is that he gets his mics from a Shure distributor in Singapore. So yes, they are genuine but he is a grey marketer (which is entirely legal) rather than an authorised Oz distributor. The difference is if something goes wrong, JANDS are entitled to tell you to send the mic to Singapore for repairs! Whether that risk is countered by his discount price is up to you! Like I said, JANDS has earned my loyalty through service, even if that comes at a price.

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 3:51 pm
by Kris
Fair point about the service. A shure mic is about as hardy as they come though.... If it actually gets to the point where it isn't working, well, it must have been hammered pretty bad.

PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2006 6:53 pm
by Ausrock
I purchased 3 57s off Alan Chan a couple of years ago and can only give the guy the "thumbs up". Until reading the above posts I had no idea where he sourced the mics from.

I also have an unbranded 57 copy which was bought s/hand (cheap) and there is little noticable sonic difference and only subtle visual differences between it and any genuine Shure. The question is, whether it will last as long as a genuine 57.

ChrisO

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 1:42 am
by Peter Knight
Yep, I've bought from Alan Chan myself. No problems whatsoever.

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 12:59 pm
by Sheer Noise
Alan Chan... nice bloke too... apparently a decent pianist as well as dirt-cheap mic importer! I got 4 e604's from him last year, hassle free, great mic's, great price!

Dave

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:23 pm
by Roy
Ditto... I too have bought from him- nice bloke, great price.

PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:29 pm
by Aearth
Me too, looks like he's suppling Sydney.

Nick

PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2006 11:39 am
by Trent
here is the guys ebay site

http://stores.ebay.com.au/Alans-Microphone

i just bought some 57s from him

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 12:03 am
by alanchan1024
Greetings,

It's nice to see people mentioning my name in a good way. And I appreciate someone purchased on 31/03/03 for a SM57 would still remember me (just to name an example). Two things I would like to clearify: 1) My price has been going down not up (e.g. that SM57 was sold for $149 + $14 shipping) 2) My Shure mics are not made / imported from Asia.

For those who have seen me in person, or anyone interested, have a look at this video to confirm I am the genuine Alan (as genuine as my Shure products ;-) )

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8483969342

I am currently working in the Commonwealth Bank, teaching in International School of Music (ISM) Landsvale, and selling on eBay.

Regards
Alan

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 2:33 am
by Kurt
Well, I know where to buy next time someone knocks off my vocal mics!