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Dense Insulation in Australia

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Sun Oct 28, 2012 12:36 pm
by waitup
Hi guys,
Has anyone ever had any luck finding fiberglass insulation that is rigid enough to use as a broadband/midrange absorber without a timber frame in australia?
Primacoustic make a product called the broadway which is just a piece of dense insulation wrapped in a breathable material, but I haven't come across any insulation nearly as dense with the usual local suspects. Everything I've found is not dense enough to support itself, if you know what I mean?
Any leads would be much appreciated.
Nick.
Re: Dense Insulation in Australia

Posted:
Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:10 pm
by peat
Been thinking about this too.
Pretty sure if you got some 100mm acoustisorb 3 which is fairly dense (48 kg/m3), wrapped and stapled it in some fabric, you could probably hang it with some 3m hooks.
I've got some 50mm acoustisorb 3 sitting around if you want to check it out.
Re: Dense Insulation in Australia

Posted:
Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:14 pm
by waitup
Where did you get the acoustisorb 3?
Re: Dense Insulation in Australia

Posted:
Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:25 pm
by peat
not sure actually, it was the project manager who organised all the purchases.
I'm sure you could get it from bunnings. Or just give tontine a call.
There is also fletcher insulation who make a bunch of spun glass kind of things. But I think acoustisorb is probably better to work with as it's more of a fibre and wont irritate and become airborne as easily.
pretty sure you can buy acoustisorb 3 100mm in 1.2mx2.4m sheets, pack of 3 ~ $200
Don't quote me on that but, and also if you are buying some let me know and I'll jump in too.
(I've got some spare nylon breathable fabric too if you want to have a covering / stapling session)
Re: Dense Insulation in Australia

Posted:
Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:26 pm
by Manning
The Polymax HD stuff is (apparently) even stiffer than Acoustisorb 3 and is self-supporting.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6911I'm getting some soon to trial (the factory is in Sydney).
Re: Dense Insulation in Australia

Posted:
Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:32 pm
by Hookemeister
Hi NIck
This is probably what you're looking for, 25mm thick, self supporting and has a density of 130kg/m3.
http://www.bradfordinsulation.com.au/Pr ... ietel.aspx Mount it off the wall so that it has an air gap of 75-100mm behind it and that will greatly improve the low frequency absorption coefficient.
Hope this helps.
Re: Dense Insulation in Australia

Posted:
Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:34 pm
by waitup
Hi Greg,
Any idea where you can purchase this, or order it in Aus?
Thanks for your help,
Nick
Hookemeister wrote:Hi NIck
This is probably what you're looking for, 25mm thick, self supporting and has a density of 130kg/m3.
http://www.bradfordinsulation.com.au/Pr ... ietel.aspx Mount it off the wall so that it has an air gap of 75-100mm behind it and that will greatly improve the low frequency absorption coefficient.
Hope this helps.
Re: Dense Insulation in Australia

Posted:
Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:56 pm
by Hookemeister
Hi Nick
I haven't used it for a long time but when we were using we sourced it from Patnicar Insulation, they always seem to give the best price. I think they're located in Leumeah and they deliver. 1800 684 645
It's sold 2 to a bag... I don't think you can buy a single sheet.
Make sure you wear gloves, long sleeves and a face mask when handling it.
Another alternative is Acousti-Panel from Tontine.
Re: Dense Insulation in Australia

Posted:
Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:12 pm
by waitup
Thanks Greg,
Will give 'em a call if that's what I decide on.
Nick.
Re: Dense Insulation in Australia

Posted:
Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:16 pm
by Hookemeister
Hi Nick
Here's a link to a post I did a while back on Acousti-Panel... it will save me writing it out again
Not sure if the the prices still apply.
http://www.turtlerockmastering.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6001&p=50342&hilit=Foam+where+to+buy%3F#p50342Hope this helps
Re: Dense Insulation in Australia

Posted:
Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:17 pm
by peat
Looks like most of our Tontine came from United Bonded Fabrics:
http://www.unitedbonded.com.au/contact-us
Re: Dense Insulation in Australia

Posted:
Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:22 pm
by wez
Hookemeister wrote:This is probably what you're looking for, 25mm thick, self supporting and has a density of 130kg/m3.
At this density, aren't you in danger of moving away from "absorbent" to "reflective"?
i thought the butter zone was 50-70 kg/m3... but please, someone correct me if i'm way off there?