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Mac CD burn wth Level control - help

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:31 pm
by Damien
what software is around that burns cd's on a mac and lets me change the level of each track?

i want to burn mixes and make each track roughly the same level (not mastering, not plugins/comp etc)....just a quick balance

does toast/jam do this (toast doesnt)..

i have read about waveburner (now dead or bundled with logic)
and bias peak. but both cost more than my need..

is there another way....on OS9 or X...

i can do this on a pc with software i already have, but dont really want to add another computer to the control room unless i have to.

thanks,

Damien

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:31 pm
by Chris H
Jam will do it for you.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:10 am
by Kurt
There is a wavgain (wav implementation of replaygain) port for mac: http://www.rarewares.org/files/others/wavegain_osx.zip

You can read about replaygain here: www.replaygain.org

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:22 am
by Kris
Waveburner works well.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:08 am
by chris p
Toast will do it.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:11 am
by Damien
does toast do it? i cant find where (i have toast, not jam)

how/where do i get Waveburner from? i dont have logic (i believe its bundeled) and i cant find anywhere to buy it........waveburner not logic..

damien

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:43 am
by Kurt
Almost all cd burning software can normalise peak levels, I don't know of any that use loudness rather than peak volume.

wavgain psycho-acoustically analyzes them so they have the same perceived loudness, not peak values.


Edit: It's freeware and it's fast.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:59 am
by Chris H
chris p wrote:Toast will do it.


News to me. What version? I'm using Toast Titanium 7.0.1 and can't find any gain adjustment . I have never found it in toast, but it's in Jam along with crossfade settings etc

Also i think waveburner is only available bundled with Logic and not as a stand alone app as it uses the Logic Dongle. There is most likley a freeware app that will do basic gain adjustments for burning
Try soundhack http://www.soundhack.com/freeware.php
Or......
Do a search of freeware for OSX.
http://www.versiontracker.com/macosx/
http://www.cornstalker.com/freeware/x.html
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/mac/2003/04 ... eware.html

Ask or search here..http://www.bigbluelounge.com/forums/index.php

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:09 pm
by chris p
Yeah, OK - its actually in the CD Spin Doctor program, which is part of the Toast suite, rather than in Toast itself. The are some filters in there as well, but I do NOT recommend them.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:58 pm
by toadmark
There is also a setting in Nero for PC which will allow you to make them all the same volume.

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:59 pm
by smash
Believe it or not...

iTunes has the ability to specify track volumes, as well as having a feature which will ensure everything is of the same average level...

... not sure how usable it is but it's free. I use waveburner personally, but it might be worth having a play.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 9:48 am
by chris p
You're right, of course, Smash, but my understanding (notoriously fallible at the best of times) is that iTunes stores the volume adjustment as a parameter with the file, rather than scaling the waveform itself. This means it may not help when Damien burns the file to a CD.

When I have time (like mid-2008) I might play with this and see if your suggestions works.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:45 am
by Damien
does anyone have waveburner as a stand alone app. or is it only with logic?

i have downloaded wavgain, and will try spin doctor etc and see what happens.

thanks to all so far....