Turtlerock Forum

Anyone interested in selling one of these?

Id be keen to see how they go.

Cheers,
-DH

They are really nice.
I'm after one to fill the vacant space in my lunchbox also.
I did a shottout between the 512 and the MA5.
Both were great, but I wanted to API's first..
Definately a great mic pre in 500 series format..

I must be one of the only people who don't like them. Never will.

heathen wrote:I must be one of the only people who don't like them. Never will.

Oh, what do you dislike about them?

Cheers,
-DH

I just thought they were pretty average in sound, I referred to them as sounding like cardboard once and upset a whole bunch of yanks on GS for referring to thier sound as a "paper product". I won't do that again.

Anyway I just don't think they have the mojo people say they do. I way prefered the JLM NV500's.

I remember reading that thread.

I thought it was funny how you were being accused of favoring the JLM's just because you were Australian, even though the people giving you a hard time were Americans defending an American product.

I don't know what was so wrong with using the term "cardboard". Some of these vintage or modern preamps do have a wooden or cardboard sound to them. I think "cardboard" could be seen as a compliment if it's the type of sound you are after. I think the R84 with a GR has a cardboard texture about it.

It was a shame that no one stuck up for you from Australia, when I read it.

Ahhh it's all good, upsetting yanks is a hobby of mine. :) They were all saying it sounded like a Neve and it really really does'nt, not even close. The gear pimps will always say otherwise though.

But yeah I agree a cardboard type quality is what I hear in a lot of gear, especially cheaper gear, but the JLM's seem to be a fair bit better to my ears.

Some may really like the ma5, there's nothing wrong with that either. They are quite usable, I just coud'nt get into them.

The yanks do get very touchy about thier gear though, hang out on GS too long and it can rub off. :)

Well I'll look forward to finding out what a 'cardboard' sound is like. Im thinking that my API's are washy sounding on metal guitars, I've owned the JLM 99v and TG before, and when I heard the NV, found it to be a bit scooped for my tastes to be useful in the loud guitar genres that I'm dealing with - would be nice on male vocals and some acoustics though.

Maybe I should have kept that TG... grrrr.

Anyways - who's gonna sell me their MA5!!???!

Dave,

You've gotta try a Chandler TG2 for guitars.

A mate has one and i recently got to spend some time with one.It is the best electric guitar pre i have ever heard.Head to head with the 1073's, and the TG2 took the cake.

Mike

geareyes wrote:Dave,

You've gotta try a Chandler TG2 for guitars.

A mate has one and i recently got to spend some time with one.It is the best electric guitar pre i have ever heard.Head to head with the 1073's, and the TG2 took the cake.

Mike

Interesting - what genre/styles?
I'm loving my API's for guitars (electric & acoustic)
I've heard the Chandler stuff is good with guitars though too..

The TG2 was used on a number of styles that week.Ranging from an "Oasis" type sound to a more open sound like "Goo Goo Dolls" to a heavier track,kind of like Nickleback overdriven heavy.It also was no slouch on a clean/chorus sounding part tracked thru a Roland JC-120.

I really enjoyed the way in which it preserved and enhanced the overtones and harmonics in comparison to the Neves.

Everyones got different tastes.I could happily live with this as my only electric guitar pre if need be.

Mike

geareyes wrote:The TG2 was used on a number of styles that week.Ranging from an "Oasis" type sound to a more open sound like "Goo Goo Dolls" to a heavier track,kind of like Nickleback overdriven heavy.It also was no slouch on a clean/chorus sounding part tracked thru a Roland JC-120.

I really enjoyed the way in which it preserved and enhanced the overtones and harmonics in comparison to the Neves.

Everyones got different tastes.I could happily live with this as my only electric guitar pre if need be.

Mike

Oh, its good to hear other opinions Mike.
I actually A/B's the MA5 and the 512 - I was going to buy either one or the other and liked both (heard the MA5 at a listening session at nIC's place in Jan)
I spent most of the good part of a saturday when I was up at Gold Cost Mix (Daniel from Legacy Audio) listening to both pres using a M49 and C24
Different horses for different courses..
I'd love to try a Chandler pre though too..

Id very interested to hear people's opinions on the difference between JLM's TG, and the Chandler TG2.

May have to do some searching around - have you heard the JLM one Mike?

WORD,
-DH

Im sure ive heard the JLM TG 500 unit at some point.I cant remember enough to comment on it though.

The chandler TG2 is a killer for electrics.Killer.

You one stop electric shop!

geareyes wrote:Im sure ive heard the JLM TG 500 unit at some point.I cant remember enough to comment on it though.

The chandler TG2 is a killer for electrics.Killer.

You one stop electric shop!

Damn, a bit pricey for my budget at the moment - shame its not in 500 series..
I doubt the Germanium 500 would sound as good or the same as the TG2..
Anyone using the Germ 500 at all????
I've still got 2 vacant slots in my lunchbox..

TimS wrote:

geareyes wrote:Im sure ive heard the JLM TG 500 unit at some point.I cant remember enough to comment on it though.

The chandler TG2 is a killer for electrics.Killer.

You one stop electric shop!

Damn, a bit pricey for my budget at the moment - shame its not in 500 series..
I doubt the Germanium 500 would sound as good or the same as the TG2..
Anyone using the Germ 500 at all????
I've still got 2 vacant slots in my lunchbox..

I have heard lots of good things about the JLM TG5000. I think Aearth had one, it that right Nick?

geareyes wrote:Im sure ive heard the JLM TG 500 unit at some point.I cant remember enough to comment on it though.

The chandler TG2 is a killer for electrics.Killer.

Your one stop electric shop!

From memory i dont think JLM's TG 500 is a recreation of Abbey Roads TG12428 used in their consoles.I do believe Chandler's TG2 is.

I'm interested in the Chandler Germanium 500..
How it compares with the TG2.. Similar, dissimilar?
Joe says on his site its more based on early NEVE, BBC, EMI gear..
QUOTE - It is NOT a EMI TG clone but to compare the tone to a EMI it is fatter, smoother sounding and has more clarity in the low mids than a Neve 1073. It is the go to pre for Electric Guitars. And if you want old school tone all over your recording that will gel it together without turning everything to mud this is the one.

I use my Chandler TG2 for lead vocals at times and it rocks - Also kik drum is amazing through it - And bass gtr too!
I need to try it on guitars now - I'm stuck on Quadeights and my Electrdyne 711's for guitar
The Germaniums are really similar - but the passive EQ on the TG is real plus.
Chris Townend
BJB Studios

I think I'm gonna have to hear this TG2 after all these positive comments.

Anyone want to hire me a Chandler TG2 or Avedis MA5 to try out?

Cheers,
-DH

Dave - I would lend you my TG if I was not using it every day. Mixmasters may be able send you a demo one
Chris Townend
BJB Studios

Thanks anyways Chris! Ill hit up Mixmasters.

Im at your studio (BJB) in a couple weeks for a couple days, does your TG2 live there or is it in your personal collection?

Cheers,
-DH

I'm lovin' my 512's for electric gtr at the moment..
Would like to try the TG2 though..

What would you guys say is the most versatile 500 pre out of the 512c, ma5 and the jlm line of pres?

Hey Dave, when you are at BJB my TG2 will be with me at The Grove Studios - where I am doing the Silverchair album.
By the way, I have been recording Daniels vocal through a U67 into the TG2 + retro Gates - Its killer!
I chose the TG2 over the Neves and Telefunkin pre's.
Regards
Chris Townend

Hey Chris - Silver-who? Never heard of them. Jokes, thats great man, can't wait to hear your work on their stuff! Im a fan of the sound of the Scares album you did, and DJ's music.

Im doing drums for an album at BJB with Simon for a band called Gay Paris, they are a must see, definitely my years highlight... No way near as prestigious as Silverchair, but definitely better name.

Ill hit up the Mixmasters re: TG2

Cheers,
-DH

mick_e wrote:What would you guys say is the most versatile 500 pre out of the 512c, ma5 and the jlm line of pres?

Mick
At the listening day @ Aearths studio in Jan, the standout on the day was the 512C and a Great River mic pre (MP-2NV).
The JLM was nice but I liked the 2 above better..

geareyes wrote:

geareyes wrote:
From memory i dont think JLM's TG 500 is a recreation of Abbey Roads TG12428 used in their consoles.I do believe Chandler's TG2 is.

the only thing chandler have recreated of abbey roads TG 12428 is .. well nothing actually
i have seen a lot of TG stuff and a lot of chandler stuff ,
its true X files stuff

lets just say chandler is living large on people "wanting to believe"