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WTB - Roland Dimension D Chorus Rack.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:06 pm
by Futureman
I know these do sometimes pop up on ebay, but just in case someone out there has a Roland Dimension D rack they would consider selling.

Cheers
Mike.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:22 pm
by 13thbeach
I think there is one on ebay right now. have a look.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:24 pm
by no-fi
you just missed one on ebay this morning....
:-)


have you considered building the JH subtle chorus clone?
http://www.jhaible.de/subtle_chorus/jh_ ... horus.html

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:34 pm
by Futureman
13thbeach wrote:I think there is one on ebay right now. have a look.


yea, I saw the one in sydney this morning (Got up early to bid, but it was already +$800), and I see the one in Japan..
I was just wishing for something ever so slightly cheaper.. you never know..

Regards
Mike

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:41 pm
by no-fi
I wouldn't be surprised if that was a price bump.. they regularly go for a bit less than that.


....No to the DIY subtle chorus project??

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:05 pm
by Futureman
no-fi wrote:....No to the DIY subtle chorus project??


Yea, 'No' for now... I gotta pull my finger out and finish my 1176 clone.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:09 pm
by no-fi
damn... I'm interested in it, but not so keen to go it alone.

let me know if you change your mind sometime.....
:-)

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:19 pm
by Futureman
no-fi wrote:damn... I'm interested in it, but not so keen to go it alone.

let me know if you change your mind sometime.....
:-)


Whats the estimated price for it?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:22 pm
by no-fi
not sure. I was originally looking at the full build (with the tau boards which make it much more than a dim d...) and that was looking like $600 or so I think.

I think just a dim d configuration would be a lot less..

come to think of it, I have to see if there's still PCBs available.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:37 am
by a.d.a.m. baby
A Boss Dimension C pedal has very similar circuitry ..
http://mypeoplepc.com/members/scottnoan ... h/id9.html

and may be easier to find. Apparently Beh#### has cloned the Boss pedal (surprise!) and it sounds pretty good.
So has this guy..
http://www.fromelelectronics.com/Pedals/Seraph

with a "D" clone on the way.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:07 am
by tunetown
The UAD-1 and 2 have an excellent emulation of the Roland Dimension D. You could put one on every channel. ;-)

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:16 am
by Futureman
a.d.a.m. baby wrote:A Boss Dimension C pedal has very similar circuitry ..
.


I did look a little at that, but they are mono.. I guess if i wanted to go down that road, I could use two tho...

I've heard software emulation is good (As well as the Line 6 pedals) but I prefer hardware, and something that holds it's value in the long term.

Regards
Mike

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:52 am
by Kurt
Or get an early CE-5. The later ones (post 2001) are digital.

http://www.bossarea.com/loadpage.asp?file=boxes/ce5.xml

Futureman wrote:
a.d.a.m. baby wrote:A Boss Dimension C pedal has very similar circuitry ..
.


I did look a little at that, but they are mono.. I guess if i wanted to go down that road, I could use two tho...

I've heard software emulation is good (As well as the Line 6 pedals) but I prefer hardware, and something that holds it's value in the long term.

Regards
Mike

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:23 pm
by lumbago
http://www.bossarea.com/loadpage.asp?fi ... s/dc-2.xml

Shows a stereo out on the Dimension C pedal.

Dimension D were like a really subtle chorus. Another way would be to run a 30-50ms DDL echo with limited mod and feedback until it finds "the sweet spot". The SDE-1000 I have here produces a really similar effect on keys to the Dimension D when set up this way.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:07 pm
by a.d.a.m. baby
Futureman wrote:
a.d.a.m. baby wrote:A Boss Dimension C pedal has very similar circuitry ..
.


I did look a little at that, but they are mono.. I guess if i wanted to go down that road, I could use two tho...

Regards
Mike


Mono in of course, but apparently (sorry, I forget where I read this) can be modified to accept stereo in, like the "D", due to it's similarities with it's rack cousin.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:12 pm
by a.d.a.m. baby
lumbago wrote:http://www.bossarea.com/loadpage.asp?file=boxes/dc-2.xml

Shows a stereo out on the Dimension C pedal.

Dimension D were like a really subtle chorus. Another way would be to run a 30-50ms DDL echo with limited mod and feedback until it finds "the sweet spot". The SDE-1000 I have here produces a really similar effect on keys to the Dimension D when set up this way.


Aficionados claim some of the magic is in the companding circuit with these units, which would be trickier to emulate.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:35 pm
by Chinagraf
Dim D's are hard to emulate with delays or choruses. There is something about the way they fold into mono that is excellent.
Now, I hardly ever say something like this, but I have the UAD plugin and have put it side by side with a mint hardware Dim D. It is incredibly close, the main difference was the noise from the hardware. I say this with a grain of salt, I am a hardware guy, but that plugin is pretty awesome. No good for live, but in a mix it rocks on vocals and guitars etc. and does all buttons mode.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:53 pm
by Chris H
Chinagraf wrote:Dim D's are hard to emulate with delays or choruses. There is something about the way they fold into mono that is excellent.
Now, I hardly ever say something like this, but I have the UAD plugin and have put it side by side with a mint hardware Dim D. It is incredibly close, the main difference was the noise from the hardware. I say this with a grain of salt, I am a hardware guy, but that plugin is pretty awesome. No good for live, but in a mix it rocks on vocals and guitars etc. and does all buttons mode.


Good to know. Thanks for that Andy

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:44 pm
by Starxi
I Have a Dimension C, and the UAD plugin.
I had an SDD-320 but I sold it when I needed some money.
They all sound similar, the real DIM D was more organic/analog sounding though, I thought.
not so noticeable in a mix..
the plugin is enormously useful because you can patch it several times in sublte ways for really lovely effects, particulary when applied to reverb and effects sends.
I want to ditch the UAD to go native, and to a new iMac, but the Dim D plugin is so essential to me I can't for now..
I really hope UAD go firewire.. or just go to a dongle type processor, like SSL have with Duende.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:44 am
by walding
There is one here and not that badly priced either.


http://www.ishibashi.co.jp/u_box/e/





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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:52 pm
by Futureman
Ok, Last chance before I buy one OS.

I'll shell out $800AU for a Dimension D Rack if anyone has one locally.

Cheers
Mike

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 3:48 pm
by Futureman
Took hold my my shiny Dim D yesterday, and had a real good play with it today.. awesome! It's in brilliant condition. A1.

So subtle, so spacious & open.

It's hard to know what it's doing, until you bypass it.. then you go.. ahhh.. thats whats missing.

;]

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:28 pm
by rick
hard to know what its doing...?
its transporting you into the D dimension !

it sounded like drugs last time i used one (.... err in 1987) :)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:08 pm
by rachelp
What kind of sourcesare you puttingthrough it? I use it for a couple of digital synths and the Jupiter 6 sounds amazing through it - in a mono split to lush
stereo kind of way!

I like settings I & II mostly.

rachel

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:35 am
by Futureman
At the moment, I've trying it on quite a few things, but the P5 sounds wicked, as does the SID synth..

The prophet through it just makes me drool.

Re: WTB - Roland Dimension D Chorus Rack.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:54 am
by Kurt
Just stumbled across this

http://www.service-1.de/music/html/vdimension.html

and remembered this thread...

I haven't tried the plugin but the demo track sounds pretty damn close to the original.

Re:

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:08 am
by Chris H
rachelp wrote:What kind of sourcesare you puttingthrough it? I use it for a couple of digital synths and the Jupiter 6 sounds amazing through it - in a mono split to lush
stereo kind of way!

I like settings I & II mostly.

rachel


Try it on Bass

Re: WTB - Roland Dimension D Chorus Rack.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:19 pm
by Futureman
Having now owned a Dim D for nearly a year and constantly useing it.. I'd pretty much say it's good for anything and everything.. lol.

That plugin demo does sound pretty legit on my crappy laptop speakers however.
(I must say, that my laptop speakers do have the 'JBL-Pro' badge underneath them, so are probably better than most studio monitors ;;) )

Regards
Mike

Re: WTB - Roland Dimension D Chorus Rack.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:48 pm
by rachelp
I have one of these. I really like it. When I first got it, it was like I couldn't really hear the effect,
but if I defeat it, the sound doesn't have the same life in it. I am currently running a Kawai K1 through,
which really makes those grainy string patches come alive. I ran a couple of other poly synths through
it but for some reason, I like the digital/analogue blend....

rachel