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Fs Neumann u 89 ...sold & paid for

Posted:
Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:20 pm
by rick
As recently malighned by me in front of an apalled turtlerock forum crowd headed
by Chris the "tasmanian". Townend
silver older style( small body) u 89
checked by gunter and pronouced totally within spec
it's not mint but it looks pretty good
if it was in a shock mount I would give it 8.5 put of ten
for looks
I reckon by the time I get a photo together it will
be sold anyway
no shockmount because it got lost
I think it still had the case I'll check
$1600 firm
Re: Fs Neumann u 89

Posted:
Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:28 pm
by waitup
Swap you for a rode nt1-a
Re: Fs Neumann u 89

Posted:
Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:31 pm
by rick
Now you learning Nick
swap your new shiny mics out for old neumanns
I have been doing it for years

err I think we will pass on that offer
Re: Fs Neumann u 89

Posted:
Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:33 pm
by waitup
Oh well... worth a try. I paid a fortune for that damn mic!
Re: Fs Neumann u 89

Posted:
Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:08 pm
by The Tasmanian
Very overrated mics!
Re: Fs Neumann u 89

Posted:
Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:43 pm
by audioio
The Tasmanian wrote:Very overrated mics!
The NT1 or the U89? (Don't recall where you stood on the matter of the U89!)
Re: Fs Neumann u 89

Posted:
Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:14 pm
by waitup
Please, before everyone thinks less of me, can i clarify that this business about the nt1a... I won this in a raffle at integrate and it's kind of turned into a running joke...
Re: Fs Neumann u 89

Posted:
Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:42 am
by Hud
pmd

er, unless this whole sale is part of a much larger in -joke, in which case I dunno what to say
Re: Fs Neumann u 89

Posted:
Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:23 am
by rick
SOLD pending payment
Re: Fs Neumann u 89

Posted:
Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:01 am
by The Tasmanian
OK - I'll add my 2 bob in
U89:
No personality - Clean
Used a lot by classical type engineers.
switchable patterns
fairly flat response - takes EQ amazingly without odd artifacts poking out ( like NT1/ Rhode stuff and the whole TLM series - try eqing the top end on these and you will suffer tinnea of the ears not tinnitus)
If you want more personality - add a valve mic pre or comp on the front end.
I've informed a mate of its sale who recently used my U89 with his electrodyne preamp and he was more than impressed for lead vocals - he came to the same conclusion as all my points above - especially how it takes EQ in the mix.
I'm never gonna talk about a U89 again
People laugh at me too Nick - and I didnt win anything!
Re: Fs Neumann u 89

Posted:
Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:42 am
by waitup
The Tasmanian wrote:People laugh at me too Nick - and I didnt win anything!
Such is being a sound person, I suppose!
Re: Fs Neumann u 89

Posted:
Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:31 pm
by chris p
Nick, PM me if you want to sell that NT1A
Re: Fs Neumann u 89

Posted:
Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:59 pm
by rick
nicks not allowed to sell that mic until i have forgotten he won it from the generous people audio technology and it was sponsered as a prize by
rodes microphones for integrate
it was given away in fair play ... it should be used to make music in fair play i reckon
they are bound to see this thread and i dont want to cause or condone any harm when everybodies intentions were good from the get go
or nick can do whatever he likes outside of my window of view but certainly not on the forum '
nice punt though chris
Re: Fs Neumann u 89 ...sold & paid for

Posted:
Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:35 am
by waitup
Indeed, the rode won't be coming up here. The real reason is that Rick keeps borrowing it to work on his new solo album and I can't hold onto it long enough to sell. The old neumanns are just for show... Ricks really an nt1 guy!
Re: Fs Neumann u 89 ...sold & paid for

Posted:
Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:37 am
by Ben M
Re: Fs Neumann u 89 ...sold & paid for

Posted:
Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:13 am
by chris p
Fair call, Rick - Nick should just GIVE me that NT1A, right? Once you've finished with it, that is!
Ah well, its a common story - for all those who bash Rode mics (and I'm not saying Nick was doing that), owners become suddenly possessive when challenged to offload them!
Re: Fs Neumann u 89 ...sold & paid for

Posted:
Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:31 am
by waitup
Oh man, definitely not bashing rode mics. I've got an nt1000 and it gets some use just about every session. They're certainly not toys! I've got the nt5s as well, consecutive serials, and they're super useful too!
They're either real microphones or doing a bloody good job of pretending!
Re: Fs Neumann u 89 ...sold & paid for

Posted:
Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:16 pm
by chris p
waitup wrote:They're either real microphones or doing a bloody good honor pretending!
Exactly! I've an NT1000 and NT2A, use 'em heaps for MS recording. Anytime a RODE-basher wants to sell me a near-new NT1a for $100, let me know!
Re: Fs Neumann u 89 ...sold & paid for

Posted:
Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:15 pm
by waitup
anguswoodhead wrote:My first LDC was was an original NT1 - sold it to a mate who still has it - glad to see it go - sorry - harsh and brittle.

Hey Rick - what's the difference between a U89 and a U87?
Some 87's have the 89 board right?
The original NT1s were Chinese imports rebranded as 'rode', if I'm correctly mistaken.
Re: Fs Neumann u 89 ...sold & paid for

Posted:
Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:20 pm
by rick
the difference really is the size and design of the capsule the u89 is a bit smaller and has more patterns
the older u89 were a bit smaller in body size as well
neumann were trying to kick akg 414 on their butts as the 414 was selling well in the late 80s because it had "more patterns" then a neumann 87
i reckon neumann tuned them directly with the 414 in mind but made them a touch louder!
i dont reckon they sound like neumanns at all !
but as shown by the amount of people and speed this one was sold people love them for that difference
i reckon a pair would be really usuable as they are quite dark compared to "modern mics "
but on their own i reckon i would always have something better on hand in my collection .
i know a lot of people use them as a "poor mans 67 tone " for vocal tone and i reckon thats probably right with the right mic pre
classic guys love them and get very upset at me when i diss the poor little u89
all new u87a1 have had a "u89 " circuit board in them for many years well at least its marked as u89 on the board , neumann probably stuff them with
different parts for each model but i dont know really ... i havent actually seen a brand new u89ai in the flesh
i quite like the new ( last 20 + years ) u87a1 ( with that 89 board ) they have a really airy top end that most old neumanns dont have ,
a lot of guys hate them for that because what was once a great overhead pair mic is now too bright
but stick them on a vocal and you can leave it that way right through the mix without having to get a gml eq to pop the air back in
so i reckonthe sound change of a u87 was a good addition ( twenty five years ago ) but somehow they are still considered " new 87s "
i haven't opened a brand new u87ai in the last few years so some things may have changed
Re: Fs Neumann u 89 ...sold & paid for

Posted:
Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:23 pm
by Barney Loveland
I have I believe an early 80's U87 with the 89 pcb. When I asked G Wagner about it his reply was that it is probably better than an 87 as the specs are better on that model board than the 87. FWIW. One of my staple mics, female vox, acc guit, piano in fig 8 et al.
Re: Fs Neumann u 89 ...sold & paid for

Posted:
Sat Oct 09, 2010 5:30 pm
by AMAC
Hey Barney - finished my lead yet?
LAC MAC