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Buying another console

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:44 pm
by Mickstape
Hi, i came across a deceased estate sale, the fellow was into live sound and PA hire, they have a eurodesk 32 channel, asking 600 but they will accept 450, its recently been serviced and looks fairly good for its age, is it worth 450? i feel that it is, it would definitely get used and if it breaks then easy come easy go is my motto.

my girl said i shouldnt bother and save it for a mic or channel strip purchase but im an impulse buyer and my impulses say get it.

Re: Buying another console

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:18 pm
by Gian
Do you need a console? If you do, get it. If you don't listen to your gf! They keep us on the straight and narrow.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:36 pm
by 13thbeach
better to have one great channel than 32 lifeless channels. I say listen to the girl.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:52 pm
by lumbago
I wouldn't buy a 32 channel Eurodesk. For the same money, a Mackie or Soundcraft might offer a better sound, especially if you're not going to use 32 channels but more like 8-12.

And if you only use 1 or 2 channels, then consider the channel strip advice seriously. Even a RNP or Focusrite pre would offer a better sound than the Eurodesk.

I once bought a be!@#$%^& mixer and it distorted my keyboard sound so badly, that I have never used it. It's sitting here and is "DFU" (dead useless).

So make you buying decisions based on the utility of the device.

You get what you pay for.

Re: Buying another console

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:29 pm
by Gian
Oh, I didnt read that it was a eurodesk.

I have had to mix through B*#$%& mixers and they just sound terrible.
I hate the eqs in them.

Dont get it.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:34 pm
by Kurt
I have a Mackie that I bought to replace a be!@#$%^& 2442 (are Eurodesks the the blue ones?), I don't think it sounds any better but it has a little more cred when people see it. The right main output died, probably an easy fix but replaced it because I couldn't afford to not have one while the local shop fixed it. They don't like working on them, so keep that in mind too.

There have been a fair few "fixer-upper" desks go though eBay lately, dirt cheap if you have the patience/skills to do the work. I don't :(

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:15 pm
by Mickstape
yeah im dubious when it comes to anything behrenger, but i am looking to get out there and start a pa hire/live rig going, for the local kids and some of the bands where i am they would benefit from it as well as myself. i have a few few bins and a sub, for a starter rig its perfect for the price.

but in relation to 13ths post, i agree better that have something that will benfit my recording chain than a pov desk.

i dunno....i'm giving it the weekend to decide i think.

thanks fellas.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:55 pm
by Gian
Mickstape wrote:
i dunno....i'm giving it the weekend to decide i think.


If I am in two minds, I always go with not doing/buy something.

You can always get something better.

Cheap soundcraft desks come up all the time.

Even cheap Allen & Heath Mixwiz come up.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:30 pm
by 13thbeach
Hey there is a really cool old Yamaha desk on ebay right now. The old yamaha's apparently are really great bang for buck. Certainly would be better than any be!@#$%^&. Have a look and do your research.

PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 7:48 pm
by Ben M
Careful the guy might have died due to Eurodesk exposure. :)
I know it's difficult financially but if it's for the kids benefit there could be local community/council grant money.
Maybe something smaller that 1 person can carry safely - 16 channel, 4 aux sends (2 for foldback), inserts for outboard later. Sounds like you
need graphics/effects/amps/crossover for your bins?
Most of the local kids bands will only need 16 inputs for there setups. And you'll save your back from lugging a piece of crap around. :)
Have a look at the smaller Yamaha MG series or Allen & heath, they should be going for just as much, if not a little more.

All the best