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Isn't this where the idea for the Great River loading switch came from? In the 70's someone's custom Neve, I can't remember who, had one module that sounded different to the rest and they really liked the sound. The module was checked and it turned out the transformer loading was left off, or incorrect, causing a rise at around 40Khz. It couldn't be heard directly, but it resulted in an airier top end on the module. Wish I could remember who's console it was... (actualy I just checked and it was Geoff Emerick that noticed it)
I still think output transformer termination is a matter of taste and the individual piece, plus whatever it is driving downstream. I don't like the sound of my old La3a's unterminated, however, I love the sound of my Federals unterminated. I like the top end rise on acoustic guitars. I know it's not 'to spec' but in the real world a lot of the things/sounds we now love aren't.
I still think output transformer termination is a matter of taste and the individual piece, plus whatever it is driving downstream. I don't like the sound of my old La3a's unterminated, however, I love the sound of my Federals unterminated. I like the top end rise on acoustic guitars. I know it's not 'to spec' but in the real world a lot of the things/sounds we now love aren't.
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Chinagraf - Valued Contributor

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Smart Send Courier phone number
Smart Send Couriers:
Smart Send phone number
Here are the directors numbers
Chris Madden : 0422817523
Steven Visic: 0434 554 677
Hope this helps somebody.
Smart Send phone number
Here are the directors numbers
Chris Madden : 0422817523
Steven Visic: 0434 554 677
Hope this helps somebody.
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an air switch as stated , would only be worthwhile if you installed it , used it and like the result.
its a very academic issue other wise , seeing most microphones are trying really hard to make any noise above 15k
and none work above 40k.
what i was going to do with modules ..one day was rack them up with the vu meters neve knobs and a jlm kit for phase /di /phantom so i think your kinda there
i am not really interested in the air switch idea
the modules came out of a melborne broadcast neve i had in about 1993 , when things were a bit more sanely priced
the rest of the amps / channels are scattered to the wind
its a very academic issue other wise , seeing most microphones are trying really hard to make any noise above 15k
and none work above 40k.
what i was going to do with modules ..one day was rack them up with the vu meters neve knobs and a jlm kit for phase /di /phantom so i think your kinda there
i am not really interested in the air switch idea
the modules came out of a melborne broadcast neve i had in about 1993 , when things were a bit more sanely priced
the rest of the amps / channels are scattered to the wind
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I think we went to different schools together
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ps , while geoff tanner is much loved , many of his comments are highly debated amonst those in the loop
the build quality of his "new stuff" is interesting ... but not in the neve league
the build quality of his "new stuff" is interesting ... but not in the neve league
Rick O'Neil
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I think we went to different schools together
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we listen
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I can't remember what time the auction was, it might have been a sale within a post as I couldn't find a post. It was around end of April 08 though.
Have replaced some caps but the electros on the board are next when I find time. Thanks for sharing your bits of gear you don't need on to us turtlerockers.
Have replaced some caps but the electros on the board are next when I find time. Thanks for sharing your bits of gear you don't need on to us turtlerockers.
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13thbeach wrote:I'll take it!!! SOLD!!!............um......what did I just buy?
My microphone. Or hurry up and tell me you don't want it so I can put it back where it came from and not regret selling it tomorrow.
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just thought i'd flesh out some info for those interested in the discussion about 600ohm termination of these modules and the upside and downside
The units are now racked and ready and so I swept some tones to illustrate what the modules do with and without a 600ohm load. Note with the load on they lose overall level of about 0.25dB and i've corrected for this in the example here. You'll note that at 20kHz the difference with and without the load is about 0.3dB...you can hear this right? The unloaded module achieves a peak of around 9dB at 76kHz, this isn't shown in the illustration as my test generator is limited to 50kHz and you can see this limit as the steep rolloff just under 50kHz.
enjoy

The units are now racked and ready and so I swept some tones to illustrate what the modules do with and without a 600ohm load. Note with the load on they lose overall level of about 0.25dB and i've corrected for this in the example here. You'll note that at 20kHz the difference with and without the load is about 0.3dB...you can hear this right? The unloaded module achieves a peak of around 9dB at 76kHz, this isn't shown in the illustration as my test generator is limited to 50kHz and you can see this limit as the steep rolloff just under 50kHz.
enjoy

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They look nice. Well done.
I'm still waiting for my booby prize.....
;-p
I'm still waiting for my booby prize.....
;-p
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No, you never promised anything. You just hinted that maybe I'd get a booby prize. There was no mention of what that was.
And yes, I'm feeling sorry for myself now. I should have been a hard arse and those little beauties would be mine.
Not to worry. Maybe next time.
Cheers
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Hopefully the Neves sound as good as they look.. !! :)
can't wait to get them in the rack and rockin'!
can't wait to get them in the rack and rockin'!
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