Aeropane Ear....

[rick]

interesting response from a guy that sees this stuff at work i guess

but i did two weeks once with my lousey g.p treating my ears with scattergun antibotics , i could not work i was crying at night , it cost me about $6000 of lost income
i finally got him to refer to the local ent
i did not like what he had to say on the phone so i tracked down "the sydney e.n.t"

he took a look in my ear, took a scrape put it under the microscope asked a bunch of questions
put something in my ear , we waited a while he took anther scrape and then he prescribed the heavy antibotic i spoke of
it seem to me that its exactly why you have specialists and why we have medicine

i have been back 3 times in 5 years with the same problem , its basically "ear tinea" that comes up in summer time .
its a two day course because its so strong i have probably had it for decades but as you get older , your ears get hairier things change
etc etc


my son had a staff infection in his knee when he was just two
he had a operation and the most serious antibotics for three weeks
again they saved his live it was a "there is no option he his fighting for his life kinda deal" , and thats what they are for i guess.

i am the last guy to take drugs of any kind but everything has its place

my father in law had a persistant throat infection for two months ,
then one saturday afternoon the poor bugger had a sore neck and by nine oclock he was dead

killed by an angry strain of minigacockal ( or how ever you spell it )
if you have ever seen a loved one an hour after that bug has done its work you will wonder what could have been done i assure you

the bug got to him because he had no resistance to it because he was so sick and the bug took its oppurtunity
nasty bug that one
and of course anybody that had been in contact with him in the last 48 hours of his life got a dose of antibiotics to save their lives
again thats what they are for

he didn't believe in antibotic for the reasons you posted Tim

but as shown in this forum in recent times
if your not feeling right , go and get somebody who really does know what they are talking about to find out whats up
and then work on your options.
Life is too short to mess around

[heathen]

I don't think much more than a third of us would still be here without antibiotics.

[TimS]

interesting response from a guy that sees this stuff at work i guess

but i did two weeks once with my lousey g.p treating my ears with scattergun antibotics , i could not work i was crying at night , it cost me about $6000 of lost income
i finally got him to refer to the local ent
i did not like what he had to say on the phone so i tracked down "the sydney e.n.t"

he took a look in my ear, took a scrape put it under the microscope asked a bunch of questions
put something in my ear , we waited a while he took anther scrape and then he prescribed the heavy antibotic i spoke of
it seem to me that its exactly why you have specialists and why we have medicine

i have been back 3 times in 5 years with the same problem , its basically "ear tinea" that comes up in summer time .
its a two day course because its so strong i have probably had it for decades but as you get older , your ears get hairier things change
etc etc


my son had a staff infection in his knee when he was just two
he had a operation and the most serious antibotics for three weeks
again they saved his live it was a "there is no option he his fighting for his life kinda deal" , and thats what they are for i guess.

i am the last guy to take drugs of any kind but everything has its place

my father in law had a persistant throat infection for two months ,
then one saturday afternoon the poor bugger had a sore neck and by nine oclock he was dead

killed by an angry strain of minigacockal ( or how ever you spell it )
if you have ever seen a loved one an hour after that bug has done its work you will wonder what could have been done i assure you

the bug got to him because he had no resistance to it because he was so sick and the bug took its oppurtunity
nasty bug that one
and of course anybody that had been in contact with him in the last 48 hours of his life got a dose of antibiotics to save their lives
again thats what they are for

he didn't believe in antibotic for the reasons you posted Tim

but as shown in this forum in recent times
if your not feeling right , go and get somebody who really does know what they are talking about to find out whats up
and then work on your options.
Life is too short to mess around

Granted life is too short not to mess around - no disagreeing with you there Rick. I'm not disputing your above stated reasons either. All points are 'legitimate' use for strong AB therapy.
I even stated in my previous message that Unless his infection warranted heavy A/B therapy, then fine,
I'm just stating the FACT that there is over-prescription of A/B use worldwide - and this is my opinion for which I am entitled.
Unless there is a clinical indicator to use top gun ABs, no problem. Swallow as many as you like..
But when GP's roll out the big guns for simple infections, it DOES become an issue and bacteria WILL become resistant.
Do a Google on MRO's and see how they affect everything..

[rick]

I'm just stating the FACT that there is over-prescription of A/B use worldwide

i dont think anybody would doubt that tim


anyway harry hows your ear ..?

[harry]

hey Guys,

here's my update - i rang around and most ent guys were at least a couple weeks waiting time so i went to the emergency ward of the ear and eye hospital......
6 hours later (lucky i brought a book and laptop) i saw a doctor - he thinks my ears are fine (they arent) he ordered a hearing test for me - will have to wait and see...

didn't realise this is such a common problem...
what's the use of obsessing over good bits of gear if you can't hear properly - definitely ordering some plugs for gigs once my ear is sorted...


harry arvanitis

[TimS]

Funny - http://ninemsn.com.au/ are doing a survey on reader/online opinion of antibiotic prescription..
How ironic..

[harry]

Hey Guys,

Just thought i'd let you know how my ears are going...

I don't think i want to go back to the ear / eye hospital as the doctors (different ones on call) wouldn't answer my questions about what was wrong with my ears... apart from the fact that there was negative pressure in my affected ear... felt like they were way to busy..... as in - take the drugs... and goodbye
i've been taking a steroid pump spray to ? open up my escation ? tube or whatever it is..

anyway - while i was at it i booked myself in for a set of musicians earplugs with an audiologist - 20db ones, i got a new set of tests done for hearing (before and after and pressure) - my hearing is 'normal' whatever that means.... the pressure in my ear has become less but both of my ears show 'negative' pressure in relation to the center..... sorry but the explanation was in one ear and out the other....pun

The pressure test induced a high pitched tone in my affected ear that did not go away for half an hour, i know there is still something wrong with it, i can actually feel the tinnitus being in that ear only.... and sometimes hitting particular notes on a guitar or in speech makes my ear drum 'resonate' in sympathy.... this has never ever happened to me post flying...so one month of steroids later and i dont know what is wrong with my ear....

Can anyone recommend a 'Good' ENT doctor in Melb (S.E Suburbs preferably - but i will travel if you think they are excellent) before i get my GP to refer me to whoever....

And what is the masonic handshake necessary to gain an appointment with one of these specialists asap...
i.e what do i say to the receptionist when they say there is a 10 week waiting list....

Thanks Guys.... and i hope your ears are all golden.... lets all use our earplugs when we should ... and take a nasal decongestant when flying with a cold.....

Harry Arvanitis

[Roy]

When I went skydiving my ears seemed blocked for a week afterwards. They weren't blocked of course. But man it was annoying. Couldn't wait to get my ears back! Something to do with the rapid descent to a higher air pressure or something.

[heathen]

Harry I know I'm gonna sound like a broken record, just book in to see the ENT and see them, however long it takes.

Thing is you really need to understand the way different infections work, bacterial infections generally respond very well to antibiotics, viral infections there is nothing you can do except let the thing run its course and treat any secondary infections with antibiotics. Sounds like you really have a nasty blockage in your eustacian tube, which is the only path to equalise pressure in your ears with the outside world.

Also using steroids on a bacterial infection can sometimes make it worse by ummmmm giving the bacteria steroids, also they will compromise your skins natural defences, will make skin thinner and compromise immune responses. Some bacteria really thrive on steroids and get nastier and stronger, just like people.

As I said I dunno what this virus is but i wish some some bright young Dr would study it, I've seen a bunch of friends and family get this thing with sometimes debilitating effects for 3 months or longer, though after the bug runs it's course recovery is quite quick, though mild tinnitus can persist for a year or longer, roughly 2 years of mild tinnitus I think in my case. My Dad still has tinnitus from it. Also it seems to come back, I've had it 3 times though each time not as severe as the last, I'm probably immune to it now as I hav'nt had it for a while.

Anyway believe me or not, I bet it clears up mostly over the next month or so, but you still wanna see a ENT and get some antibiots to clear the secondary infection properly.

Mostly when people get this thing they keep going on with work and stuff and suffer silently in misery, but Audio Engineers absolutely freak out as not many other people rely on thier ears so much for work. So seeing there are'nt that many Audio peeps why would anyone take any real notice, if half the work force was'nt going to work they'd have an answer and probably a cure in 2 weeks flat.

I reckon once all the audio schools are finished half the population will be audio engineers and mabye then we'll know what this rotten bug is.

[heathen]

i have been back 3 times in 5 years with the same problem , its basically "ear tinea" that comes up in summer time .
its a two day course because its so strong i have probably had it for decades but as you get older , your ears get hairier things change
etc etc

Easy, stop sticking your toes in your ears. :)














Sorry Rick, could'nt resist.

[heathen]

Also Harry if it is ear tinnea, steroids are probably the worst thing you can use.