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Postby Linear » Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:38 am

Continental Europe... and it's cold!!

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Postby mylesgm » Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:43 am

hah!
loads of my friends are spread between iceland and berlin at the moment. Melbourne is currently in a string of 100+ days above 20 degrees... I'm mixing during the day with the windows open and a slight warm breeze across my desk..
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Postby heathen » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:37 am

musikwerks wrote:

As to the Maya... I don't know how to explain it but there's some kind of emotional response that it triggers. I know that sounds corny but it's true. Might not work for other genre's but for this music it was a perfect fit. Ask Rick sometime... he might be able to explain it.



Dunno just seemed smoother and more detailed through the whole freq range, not gonna use any esoteric descriptions heh. Also would really love a GML eq, they are a superb eq I agree.

Regarding multiple plugins errrrrgggghhhhh, yeah I've seen the same, hell I've even done the same once or twice and realised that once I started removing plugs everything started sounding better, weird eh?

I just realised it was getting me nowhere fast so started buying analog gear and there was no looking back. Yeah I've seen some rediculous plugin chains too. I was getting 10 times better results just using the comps and eq's in my O2R, good thing about the o2R is it won't really let you do anything like making a rediculous plugin chain, heh.

The only plugs that gives me true joy are Altiverb and PSP Xenon, any eq or comp plugs I use go into something outbourd anyway, seems to be what most people are doing who like/use hardware.

So if I start mixing again I'm just going to buy a decent desk and go back to basics, just for the ease of use and the time it saves.
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Postby heathen » Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:41 am

musikwerks wrote:
All lead vocals are Wagner U47 into Purple Audio Biz


Farout Kris talk about torturing a U47, hehe. Actually this is the only time I've thought a Biz sounded decent.........


















I'm gonna cop it now.
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Postby waitup » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:29 am

heathen wrote:This time I patched it into my good monitors for a listen and it really fills the lounge room, got big rooms in the new house too. Defineately has the Turtlerock sound to it as well, had a listen to it compared to another CD Rick mastered a while back pre Maya, ummmm I think I hear what the Maya does. :) :) :)


Dare I suggest that the difference you heard was a result of different music, different musicians, different rooms, different mics, pres, compressors, Eq, desk etc etc etc more than a different D to A at mastering?
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Postby musikwerks » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:11 am

Not at all... I got rid of the Biz pretty soon after that. I felt it was kind of lifeless. I have a TG500 and NV500 now. Much more vibe.
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Postby toddd » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:21 am

Not Nashville sounding, nor does it have the Turtlerock sound, but it was tracked and mixed almost entirely itb with logic and 2 UAD-1 cards.. Outboard included an AWA Big One, Auditronics 110 strips, Avalon 747. Mic Pres Included Sytecs and Joe Malone BA's.. I'm fairly certain there's no synthetic sheen, you tell me though..

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Postby heathen » Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:33 pm

waitup wrote:
heathen wrote:This time I patched it into my good monitors for a listen and it really fills the lounge room, got big rooms in the new house too. Defineately has the Turtlerock sound to it as well, had a listen to it compared to another CD Rick mastered a while back pre Maya, ummmm I think I hear what the Maya does. :) :) :)


Dare I suggest that the difference you heard was a result of different music, different musicians, different rooms, different mics, pres, compressors, Eq, desk etc etc etc more than a different D to A at mastering?


Well Nick that's plain obvious to take into account......... Is'nt this what masterinmg is about though, getting a certain sonic quality and consistancy that is recognisable? I know some people feel this way.
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Postby heathen » Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:39 pm

musikwerks wrote:Not at all... I got rid of the Biz pretty soon after that. I felt it was kind of lifeless. I have a TG500 and NV500 now. Much more vibe.


Yeah I got in trouble on GS for saying the MA5 sucked, was'nt gonna go for a 2nd round with the biz, could have got ugly real quick . :)
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Postby musikwerks » Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:27 pm

If you thought the MA5 sucked then you would reeeeeallllly hate the Biz.
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Postby heathen » Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:13 pm

musikwerks wrote:If you thought the MA5 sucked then you would reeeeeallllly hate the Biz.


I did, tried them at Nic's place a few times. :)
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Postby Martin » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:46 pm

musikwerks wrote:Yeah, I tracked/produced it.


It's BIG! :)

Whats the deal with autotune? did she need it much?
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Postby musikwerks » Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:34 am

No. One or two tickles on a phrase or two but otherwise it's been left alone.
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