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tunetown wrote:In a blind listening test if the CS-1 sounds better than his Mic he will give it to me.
ok, this is going to be fun... i'm looking forward to watching this unfold, as you work out some way of defining "sounds better".
not to mention the bleeding obvious... that any mic can sound great with the right source/pre/lunar phase, and crap with the wrong one.
and don't get me started on "blind" listening test methodologies...
so i guess you'll probably end up with some sort of voting system... hey it works for Idol.
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Ben, that's a very generous offer. I would , however, suggest that win, lose or draw you donate your mic to an online ebay auction with all winnings going to the westmead childrens hospital. I was never in this for any other reason than to buy a nice mic. I'm sure your mic is also very nice and you have a great marketing opportunity here. If it sounds as good as you say then I'll bid for it anyway.
What sounds good to some might not to others. How to define better is too grey an area.
Just my 2 cents
Cheers
What sounds good to some might not to others. How to define better is too grey an area.
Just my 2 cents
Cheers
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I think that is a super idea, but how about possibly choosing a hospital or an organisation that DOESN'T get a lot of donations - both Westmead Childrens Hospital and The Childrens Hospital Randwick get LOTS of donations through their own fundraising and many other societies. Not that I begrudge them at all, I'm just opening the idea to choosing other valuable services and organisations that have less funding available..
I've worked in healthcare for over 22yrs and it always surprises me that people choose to donate to the hospitals that get the most cash from fundraising in the first place! There are other institutions that provide the same healthcare but do not get the same level of donation support that alot of other hospitals get.
Why not choose an organisation that helps ALL hospitals (Breast Cancer Foundation, Jane McGrath Foundation, Red Cross, Parkinsons/Alzheimers research, Garvan Institute - the list could go on for miles)
Gosh, the busy Intensive Care Unit I work in needs a new portable Ultrasound/Echocardiography machine (I use these machines also), but we dont have the money to buy one - yet we are the busiest ICU in the STATE!
Maybe we can look at a few different options.
Sorry guys, off my chair now - move along... nothing to see here..
I've worked in healthcare for over 22yrs and it always surprises me that people choose to donate to the hospitals that get the most cash from fundraising in the first place! There are other institutions that provide the same healthcare but do not get the same level of donation support that alot of other hospitals get.
Why not choose an organisation that helps ALL hospitals (Breast Cancer Foundation, Jane McGrath Foundation, Red Cross, Parkinsons/Alzheimers research, Garvan Institute - the list could go on for miles)
Gosh, the busy Intensive Care Unit I work in needs a new portable Ultrasound/Echocardiography machine (I use these machines also), but we dont have the money to buy one - yet we are the busiest ICU in the STATE!
Maybe we can look at a few different options.
Sorry guys, off my chair now - move along... nothing to see here..
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Well then, you could all be incredibly kind and donate the mic back to me, naa just kidding. If any of you would like to read a great story, this one makes me cry every time. www.heartsofhope.iinet.net.au/phelicity/phelicity.html
But it has a happy ending, she is in school and very well now. All up she has had 12 surgeries in the USA.
Great idea for the charity thing, but i do agree that the funds should go to an orginisation that doesn't have alot of dough like hearts of hope or the many others that are around to help the littleys.
Cheers
But it has a happy ending, she is in school and very well now. All up she has had 12 surgeries in the USA.
Great idea for the charity thing, but i do agree that the funds should go to an orginisation that doesn't have alot of dough like hearts of hope or the many others that are around to help the littleys.
Cheers
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crikey...this thread just got really wierd!
is it even possible that one mic can be better than other?
how the f@#$ are you going to decide that?? Is this like an olympics for recording equipment
i think i have on old beaten up SM57 somewhere. And lets face it it the right situation...it could be the PERFECT mic.
all the best for the new year guys
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is it even possible that one mic can be better than other?
how the f@#$ are you going to decide that?? Is this like an olympics for recording equipment
i think i have on old beaten up SM57 somewhere. And lets face it it the right situation...it could be the PERFECT mic.
all the best for the new year guys
Rob
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rob wrote:crikey...this thread just got really wierd!
is it even possible that one mic can be better than other?
how the f@#$ are you going to decide that?? Is this like an olympics for recording equipment
i think i have on old beaten up SM57 somewhere. And lets face it it the right situation...it could be the PERFECT mic.
all the best for the new year guys
Rob
( PS: i also make things...)
Hey Rob, how are you going.
Who knows how we will judge it, quite frankly, who cares. It'll be a scream no matter what happens. I'm just sticking my bib in for a bit of fun and by the looks of things, a great cause too. Either way it'll cost me a mic and a heap of laughs.
In all seriousness though, we could just do a blind test between 4 different mics, each recording 4 different sources and each person present could just state which was their favourite in each instance on a piece of paper, tally the scores, and see how it ends up.
Wanna come?
talk soon
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Sure, I was just saying the first charity that came to mind. I'm happy for Ben to donate his mic to whatever charity we deem worthy.
Cheers
Oh and happy new year
xxx
Cheers
Oh and happy new year
xxx
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different mics...different outputs...different sweet spots for the preamp ....... it's all relative to something.
I have followed the announcement and details of the CS-1 with great interest and think it would be a great mic but really , i know diddly squat about mics from a tech design point of view. They say the capsule is as good as the original brass ring CK12 etc,etc...... any one seriously interested should know all the details by now.
My nick name given to me by my brother was Bees Knees... a bit of a stir referring to the miniscule size of my biceps compared to his, so i dont warm to the name. Then there is the Bees Knees Beer.......i'd rather have a Coopers Dark Ale or Vintage any day.
I will endeavor to overcome my obvious prejudice and check out the Bees Knees mic. What i'm after is a go to vox mic that has depth, presence, rich transparent mids, an open but full sound........ whatever all these adjectives really mean???
all i know is it can be hit and miss getting the vox sound that stands out as exceptional....... i'm not there yet and will not be satisfied as an engineer until i can regularly achieve exceptional vox recordings.
By the way ... Happy New Year..... It's gunna be a good one.
I have followed the announcement and details of the CS-1 with great interest and think it would be a great mic but really , i know diddly squat about mics from a tech design point of view. They say the capsule is as good as the original brass ring CK12 etc,etc...... any one seriously interested should know all the details by now.
My nick name given to me by my brother was Bees Knees... a bit of a stir referring to the miniscule size of my biceps compared to his, so i dont warm to the name. Then there is the Bees Knees Beer.......i'd rather have a Coopers Dark Ale or Vintage any day.
I will endeavor to overcome my obvious prejudice and check out the Bees Knees mic. What i'm after is a go to vox mic that has depth, presence, rich transparent mids, an open but full sound........ whatever all these adjectives really mean???
all i know is it can be hit and miss getting the vox sound that stands out as exceptional....... i'm not there yet and will not be satisfied as an engineer until i can regularly achieve exceptional vox recordings.
By the way ... Happy New Year..... It's gunna be a good one.
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Hey Ben I was just being cheeky, I think it's an admirable offer that you have made, it would actually be good to see your mic win being Aussie made and all.
Pete nice gesture too,
But yeah I agree with Rob also, mics are a very subjective thing, though still at the last shootout Petes elux 251 was clear winner on the day for vox without doubt, everyone just went quiet, sort of looked at each other and said mmmmmmmm thats the one.
May the best mic win. Hmmmmm had to say it, heh.
Pete nice gesture too,
But yeah I agree with Rob also, mics are a very subjective thing, though still at the last shootout Petes elux 251 was clear winner on the day for vox without doubt, everyone just went quiet, sort of looked at each other and said mmmmmmmm thats the one.
May the best mic win. Hmmmmm had to say it, heh.
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It's been a while but finally these are slowly being shipped. As I'm numbers 90 & 91 i'd say i'm still at least 6 - 8 weeks away. The early adopters have been posting some clips if anyone is interested. They have been receiving very positive feedback.
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end ... alk-3.html
Here's a few pics of the first 3 delivered to The Audities Foundation
http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index. ... aded/8826/
Oliver will only be making 200 of these mics.
Cheers
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end ... alk-3.html
Here's a few pics of the first 3 delivered to The Audities Foundation
http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/index. ... aded/8826/
Oliver will only be making 200 of these mics.
Cheers
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rick wrote:hey these look good pete
Yeh, I'm quietly confident but don't want to oversell them till i've heard and played a while. The first photos looked ghastly, however, Jeff Roberts has done a wonderful metalwork finish. All reports say they look fantastic even though the don't photograph well.
I'll bring em over to TR for ya when they turn up if you like.
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Damn that Audities Foundation. I imagine that place must be what Heaven looks like.....
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tunetown wrote:rick wrote:hey these look good pete
Yeh, I'm quietly confident but don't want to oversell them till i've heard and played a while. The first photos looked ghastly, however, Jeff Roberts has done a wonderful metalwork finish. All reports say they look fantastic even though the don't photograph well.
I'll bring em over to TR for ya when they turn up if you like.
Cheers
Geez Pete your mic cabinet is gonna be chockas with awesome mics. Hmmmm I can feel a barbie comin on. Hopefully in a couple of months we could maybe do a listening session in my new place, if you and a few of the fellas are keen.
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heathen wrote:tunetown wrote:rick wrote:hey these look good pete
Yeh, I'm quietly confident but don't want to oversell them till i've heard and played a while. The first photos looked ghastly, however, Jeff Roberts has done a wonderful metalwork finish. All reports say they look fantastic even though the don't photograph well.
I'll bring em over to TR for ya when they turn up if you like.
Cheers
Geez Pete your mic cabinet is gonna be chockas with awesome mics. Hmmmm I can feel a barbie comin on. Hopefully in a couple of months we could maybe do a listening session in my new place, if you and a few of the fellas are keen.
I'm always keen. I'd love to see your new space.
:-)
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heathen wrote:tunetown wrote:rick wrote:hey these look good pete
Yeh, I'm quietly confident but don't want to oversell them till i've heard and played a while. The first photos looked ghastly, however, Jeff Roberts has done a wonderful metalwork finish. All reports say they look fantastic even though the don't photograph well.
I'll bring em over to TR for ya when they turn up if you like.
Cheers
Geez Pete your mic cabinet is gonna be chockas with awesome mics. Hmmmm I can feel a barbie comin on. Hopefully in a couple of months we could maybe do a listening session in my new place, if you and a few of the fellas are keen.
Yeah and he runs them all through a B$#@%^&** mixer.
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Aearth wrote:Yeah and he runs them all through a B$#@%^&** mixer.
It's actually an API copy of the B$#@%^&** mixer...
:-)
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You just had to bring that up......!!!! :-)
Oliver has confirmed that all mics in the 1st 100 batch will be delivered around 4th July. I'm numbers 90 & 91 so I'm guessing later rather than sooner. Last count I think he was shipping the 70's. I've never waited for anything this long before.
By all accounts they are getting excellent reviews. I'll be sure to drop them in for an evaluation at your convenience.
Crazy me also ordered the new CS-4 from them as well.
Cheers
Oliver has confirmed that all mics in the 1st 100 batch will be delivered around 4th July. I'm numbers 90 & 91 so I'm guessing later rather than sooner. Last count I think he was shipping the 70's. I've never waited for anything this long before.
By all accounts they are getting excellent reviews. I'll be sure to drop them in for an evaluation at your convenience.
Crazy me also ordered the new CS-4 from them as well.
Cheers
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I thought the mic has been delivered to it's proud new owner........
.......just looked back through the thread and it's Greg Dixon that has the first one to land in Oz.
.......just looked back through the thread and it's Greg Dixon that has the first one to land in Oz.
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tunetown wrote:You just had to bring that up......!!!! :-)
Oliver has confirmed that all mics in the 1st 100 batch will be delivered around 4th July. I'm numbers 90 & 91 so I'm guessing later rather than sooner. Last count I think he was shipping the 70's. I've never waited for anything this long before.
By all accounts they are getting excellent reviews. I'll be sure to drop them in for an evaluation at your convenience.
Crazy me also ordered the new CS-4 from them as well.
Cheers
arhh it all makes sense ...except the bit where you ordered the new one as well ...!
and the bit where when you ordered it back in 2008 you were in the low serial numbers and couldnt wait:)
have faith .. you will probably need it me thinks this is a looong wait i would hate to be in the 200s knowing he is building a new mic model as well
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rick wrote:tunetown wrote:You just had to bring that up......!!!! :-)
Oliver has confirmed that all mics in the 1st 100 batch will be delivered around 4th July. I'm numbers 90 & 91 so I'm guessing later rather than sooner. Last count I think he was shipping the 70's. I've never waited for anything this long before.
By all accounts they are getting excellent reviews. I'll be sure to drop them in for an evaluation at your convenience.
Crazy me also ordered the new CS-4 from them as well.
Cheers
arhh it all makes sense ...except the bit where you ordered the new one as well ...!
and the bit where when you ordered it back in 2008 you were in the low serial numbers and couldnt wait:)
have faith .. you will probably need it me thinks this is a looong wait i would hate to be in the 200s knowing he is building a new mic model as well
........it all adds up to "boutique cred" ..........
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nah it adds up to distance of time proving me right yet again
maybe i wont bother getting my wayback machine fixed up , i can already see the future
what was that sign off
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i like that
maybe i wont bother getting my wayback machine fixed up , i can already see the future
what was that sign off
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i like that
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anguswoodhead wrote:Intersting thread.
Hey Ben - what mic are you going to put up against the CS-1?
I don't know but hey, looks like i have craploads of time to figure it out.
You know as a manufacturer, I get customers that are really distraught if they have to wait 6 weeks for a mic let alone 76 weeks.
Maybe i am in the wrong end of the biz. I should get rid of all the staff and make 1 mic a month and just quadruple the price. (tongue in cheek).
On a serious not though, i hope the mic arrives soon before we all get too old to hear it..........
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