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Re: New Mic

Postby Chris H » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:43 am

Get in touch with Terry. He's always been very prompt in returning any messages.
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Re: New Mic

Postby jkhuri44 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:01 am

oh man, this sucks...sounds worse than a ponzi scheme i nearly got sucked into.
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Re: New Mic

Postby tunetown » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:01 am

Thanks Kris. Yeh, Terry is very prompt. I'll wait for Olivers response. I don't want to start panicing just yet.

Rick, I'm a very patient man. I just would prefer to be informed when something has been sent to me. Maybe a tracking number would be nice. Especially when the the information about my stuff has been publically posted. Makes me think somethings gone astray.

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Re: New Mic

Postby jkhuri44 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:04 am

Can i suggest contacting one of the guys from mercenary audio?

they're pretty well connected i'd imagine...?
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Re: New Mic

Postby tunetown » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:13 am

Rick, your a genious. I never even thought of the Kansas White Pages.

Found the number. It was redirected to his business partner and he will talk with Oliver to sort out any confusion. Fingers crossed it was all just a miscommunication.

Having said that, my wrath levels are rising.

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Re: New Mic

Postby tunetown » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:25 am

jkhuri44 wrote:Can i suggest contacting one of the guys from mercenary audio?

they're pretty well connected i'd imagine...?


Thanks Jamil. Emails are now flowing.
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Re: New Mic

Postby rick » Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:21 am

tunetown wrote:Rick, your a genious. I never even thought of the Kansas White Pages.

Found the number. It was redirected to his business partner and he will talk with Oliver to sort out any confusion. Fingers crossed it was all just a miscommunication.

Having said that, my wrath levels are rising.

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your old enough to remember how to talk to somebody on the telephone and look up their number in the phone book right :)
i dont think i am that clever over this issue

i reckon not having your phone number on your website so your customers cannot "waste you time "
is a sure sign of a business that has issues to solve though .

at my place we take every phone call, or return every message answer every email and know that the little guys turn into big guys sometimes
it can be a right pain at times but it just comes with the territory, you put yourself out in the world as a marketing thing as someone you can trust
you have to not be surprised when they call you up on that i reckon
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Re: New Mic

Postby tunetown » Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:08 pm

Just spoke with Oliver. It's all clear now. The mics are in transit and should arrive next week. They are not in Kansas anymore Dorothy. :-)

Stay tuned.......
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Re: New Mic

Postby rick » Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:15 pm

Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:34 pm ordered
Thurs Oct 14, 2010 1:08 pm confirmation that order is on its way

just getting my facts straight so i can continue to teach my 4 year old all about patience :)
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Re: New Mic

Postby jkhuri44 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:19 pm

i havent read too much about these mics..

but i thought usually people make mics first, then people pay for em after...

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Re: New Mic

Postby rick » Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:35 pm

your so old school !

they talk about them first get the money 2nd talk about them for 250 more pages more then .... they send them
i have no idea when they actually get built thats the beauty of the design its timeless.. its a modern classic
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Re: New Mic

Postby Chris H » Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:45 pm

jkhuri44 wrote:i havent read too much about these mics..

but i thought usually people make mics first, then people pay for em after...

EDIT.

These are likley to be ok mics....( understatement) ......a bit above the average with attention to detail in every aspect of their design and construction. Each mic is hand made and tuned. I'm no mic manufacturer but i assume this is the mic equivalent of the hand built acoustic guitar where the top is tuned individually as no two bits of spruce are identical, and being a guitar builder having worked with Maton in the 70's, i know this makes a difference when you're after a guitar with stellar qualities. At the price they are selling, they are comparable or cheaper than others that don't promise as much. There is a unique valve being used in these mics, the LMG-95-ES, only 7000 are available so the limit of 300 mics has been chosen to make them last more than a lifetime for those who buy the mics...No doubt there is marketing hyperbole as with any product but overall it's not a bad deal, and if it lives up to it's rep then it's going be a good mic to have on hand.

Here are the details: http://www.compasspointstudios.com/lucas/cs-1.html

and here is the warranty .....:

Five years, no questions asked on the Microphone electronics.

Warranty is transferable.

Capsule is warranted for one year.

Parts and labor free; Customer pays shipping both ways.

We guarantee that we will stock all replacement parts for ten years.

We will maintain a lifetime supply of LMG-95-ES tubes in stock.

Both Terry and Oliver will maintain Warranty Loaner units, to be shipped to Customer if needed during repair period.
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Re: New Mic

Postby Chris H » Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:47 pm

................ok....ok i forgot to mention the two year wait! :ar!
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Re: New Mic

Postby mics » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:35 pm

Chris H wrote:................ok....ok i forgot to mention the two year wait!



This reminds me of a 90's Gun's n Roses song................... **==
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Re: New Mic

Postby jkhuri44 » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:47 pm

lol, that has nothing to do with the fact the mics should probably be made, before people pay for em...
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Re: New Mic

Postby lonearranger » Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:32 pm

Chris H wrote: These are likley to be ok mics....( understatement) ......a bit above the average with attention to detail in every aspect of their design and construction. Each mic is hand made and tuned. I'm no mic manufacturer but i assume this is the mic equivalent of the hand built acoustic guitar where the top is tuned individually as no two bits of spruce are identical, and being a guitar builder having worked with Maton in the 70's, i know this makes a difference when you're after a guitar with stellar qualities.....

and here is the warranty .....:
Five years, no questions asked on the Microphone electronics.
Warranty is transferable.
Capsule is warranted for one year.
....


From what I have seen of recent matons Chris, I suspect that the hand tuning of guitars was abolished long ago. I certainly would not want to swap a 70s maton for a new one.

I just had the capsule in my rode classic II changed under warranty after 9years - regardless of peoples opinions of their mics I am impressed by their service/support. Classics are covered for 10years. I would classify the classic as on OK mic, the lucas I suspect whould be a substantial inprovement. I might even consider a swap of the rode for your lucas, and throw in a 70s maton as well :-)
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Re: New Mic

Postby Chris H » Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:16 pm

lonearranger wrote:
Chris H wrote: These are likley to be ok mics....( understatement) ......a bit above the average with attention to detail in every aspect of their design and construction. Each mic is hand made and tuned. I'm no mic manufacturer but i assume this is the mic equivalent of the hand built acoustic guitar where the top is tuned individually as no two bits of spruce are identical, and being a guitar builder having worked with Maton in the 70's, i know this makes a difference when you're after a guitar with stellar qualities.....

and here is the warranty .....:
Five years, no questions asked on the Microphone electronics.
Warranty is transferable.
Capsule is warranted for one year.
....


From what I have seen of recent matons Chris, I suspect that the hand tuning of guitars was abolished long ago. I certainly would not want to swap a 70s maton for a new one.

I just had the capsule in my rode classic II changed under warranty after 9years - regardless of peoples opinions of their mics I am impressed by their service/support. Classics are covered for 10years. I would classify the classic as on OK mic, the lucas I suspect whould be a substantial inprovement. I might even consider a swap of the rode for your lucas, and throw in a 70s maton as well


Haven't got a 70's Maton......silly me. Got a 1955 one thanks anyway but i think I'll hang on to it and the mic, when it eventually gets here.
The 70's Matons that were hand tuned where the Messiah and the Southern Star and the odd custom job if you're very lucky to find one. A batch would consist of 9 guitars and we would build one batch of the Messiah or Southern Star in a week, but more time was taken in the preceding weeks getting things ready like fret board selection, bracing and tuning the tops, etc. We built two batches of the CW 80's per week. As it always is with so many variables, some guitars in a batch of the CW80's etc were head and shoulders above the average of the pack and some were below average, so it pays to play many of the same make and model these days and sooner or later you will find a standout guitar. I have always done this with acoustics. Of course there was less variation with the Messiah etc but it still paid to play many before buying as you will eventually get the standout one. I picked a 2nd hand 74 Guild Jumbo this way and i haven't heard better example yet. I often play the newer ones to hear how they compare...........they don't. And while we're at it.........what's all the fuss about Cole Clark acoustics? I haven't played one i like yet! :ar!
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Re: New Mic

Postby rick » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:32 pm

Cole clarks. ? I think he has a flashy router bit
but keep it going we can't milk this thread out waiting
for the mics much longer can we?
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Re: New Mic

Postby tunetown » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:29 pm

A good friend of mine makes Johker Guitars. Hand made acoustics and Carved archtops. The sound Board, Back board and braces are all tuned to within the a440 scale. He's very skilled. To carve out and build an archtop takes roughly 300 hours.

I have an Archtop and a standard acoustic coming. Lucky I'm patient.
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Re: New Mic

Postby Chris H » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:36 pm

16560 hours aprox since you ordered the mic..........Lucky you're patient.
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Re: New Mic

Postby Ben M » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:42 pm

Chris H wrote:16560 hours aprox since you ordered the mic..........Lucky you're patient.


Just helping the post count for this thread.

carry on.


Oh...BTW....good things come to those who wait. The end.
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Re: New Mic

Postby Ben M » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:53 pm

ooo one more thing. You guys must have a pre of choice in mind for running "precious" through (you've had time to contemplate). What is the first point of contact? Just out of interest.
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Re: New Mic

Postby rick » Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:43 pm

" I have heard neves are good
well the plug ins are pretty cool
that's what I heard"
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Re: New Mic

Postby HA_DA_JA » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:18 am

When did you say you stopped working for maton?
Maybe you worked on my 1996 50th Anniversary model Acoustic?
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Re: New Mic

Postby mics » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:24 am

Ben M wrote:ooo one more thing. You guys must have a pre of choice in mind for running "precious" through (you've had time to contemplate). What is the first point of contact? Just out of interest.



I heard on the grapevine that "precious" owners will be using a specially formed and tuned TabAccousticElectroFunkenwerkAMI10117376/80; an amazing Pre using a tube that was specially made and only released in lots of 5. The pre needs 6 of these tubes so the wait time is 4 years from order payment date...................lol.......but look at the bright side; at least "precious" will be well and truly burnt in by then.....

No Malice intended, just couldn't resist.
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Re: New Mic

Postby Chris H » Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:35 am

Hmmm........ a question to answer...a misconception to clear up.......and a hidden message hidden deep in the bowels of this thread begins to emerge.

1st, the mystery............
TimS wrote:
tunetown wrote:
TimS wrote:Handmade in Gaylord says it all... ;-)

:-)

I knew I should have deleted that line...... Trust you Tim to highlight it.

Apparently they've got some good punch in the bottom end...

;-)

I heard the capsule ring was a little loose...


The above accompanied by the recent trend to name the mic "precious" gives a strong suspicion that one or more involved in the design and manufacture of said "precious" must be none other than the .............wait for it......................." GAY LORD OF THE CAPSULE RING" !
Now this is a mind blowing (pardon the pun) revelation of epic proportion!!!

Now to the Question:

HA_DA_JA wrote:When did you say you stopped working for maton?
Maybe you worked on my 1996 50th Anniversary model Acoustic?


Not likely, I left Maton in 78.


Now the misconception:


mics wrote:
Ben M wrote:ooo one more thing. You guys must have a pre of choice in mind for running "precious" through (you've had time to contemplate). What is the first point of contact? Just out of interest.



I heard on the grapevine that "precious" owners will be using a specially formed and tuned TabAccousticElectroFunkenwerkAMI10117376/80; an amazing Pre using a tube that was specially made and only released in lots of 5. The pre needs 6 of these tubes so the wait time is 4 years from order payment date...................lol.......but look at the bright side; at least "precious" will be well and truly burnt in by then.....

No Malice intended, just couldn't resist.


You are closer to the truth than you realize:
http://www.compasspointstudios.com/luca ... c_Pre.html


AND COMING VERY SOON.............( again pardon the pun)
The latest in the Lucas Microphone Preamplifier Series...

The_Moonray_White

A distinctive single channel tube and transformer mic preamp manufactured from the very finest components available in the world today.
Made to match the awesome Lucas CS-1 and CS-4 Microphones.
Watch for details.........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz




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Re: New Mic

Postby tunetown » Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:47 am

Wow , this thread has really evolved.

GAY LORD OF THE CAPSULE RING
Better not make a Hobbit of that......

I've got some nice Pre's to try. A pair of BA1073's, a pair of API 7600's, a pair of Neve 51's(Thanks Rick), a Mercury m72's and a couple other Neve Clones. When I have a free day or two I'll run them through their paces. Apparently changing patterns make significant differences to each sound. Placement is also not like the usual suspects.
They'll take a bit to find the zone. Like any new Mic really, only different.....

I'll try to be as unbiased as possible although I'm sure they'll be the greatest Mics ever built. :p

Are we still going to do the shootout. We would need a good room though. My rooms crap. Any volunteers??
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Re: New Mic

Postby rob » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:06 am

gee, I think this is my first contribution to this rambling thread; but now we have the mic on the way and the preamp in the marketing pipeline it seems there has been no mention of the mic cable! Surely this is remiss and I reckon we can stretch the thread out for at least another 5 pages if we discuss the cable.
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Re: New Mic

Postby jkhuri44 » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:26 am

awesome, a preamp designed especially for a mic , to turn the gain up, WHO'DA'THUNK IT?!?!

do we pay now and get them in 2014?
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Re: New Mic

Postby GlennS » Fri Oct 15, 2010 9:28 am

tunetown wrote:I'll try to be as unbiased as possible although I'm sure they'll be the greatest Mics ever built. :p


The best way to be unbiased is to expect nothing more than a tool that will do it's job. Fortunately you've been separated from your money for long enough to diminish your financial attachment to the mic. It's a good thing.

So, you think the CS-1 will finally wrest the crown from the SM57?
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