Carbon Tax ? Fires, Insurance Hikes, Govt Complaints

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Carbon Tax ? Fires, Insurance Hikes, Govt Complaints

Postby HA_DA_JA » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:33 pm

Can some knowledgeable person estimate the cost of the Carbon that is being emitted by the large number of bush fires this year.
Although this is a serious time for people populated in these areas, could the amount of Carbon being emitted be more then the total of Australia industrial pollution?

I also love how quick the insurance giants like Suncorp etc jump on the wagon saying that due to the increase in natural disasters get ready for another hike in insurance premiums.

Also why is the Govt not taking serious issue with preparation plans/infrastructure in dealing with these continual problems?
Suncorp recently explained that they have refused Flood Policy coverage for Emerald and Roma towns until the Govt builds infrastructure. In 2007 it was going to cost the Gov't $2million to build a levee in these areas. Since then the Govt has paid out over $500m to these affected towns in repair and rebuilding costs which could have been saved.

Okay Rant over
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Re: Carbon Tax ? Fires, Insurance Hikes, Govt Complaints

Postby ChrisW » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:56 pm

Two words: Global warming.
More regular and more serious fires, more regular and more severe flooding was predicted ten years ago.
No amount of infrastructure building or complaining about insurance, changes any of that.
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Re: Carbon Tax ? Fires, Insurance Hikes, Govt Complaints

Postby Hud » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:02 pm

I'm probably not the knowledgable person you're looking for 8-}

I think that last issue you mentioned is really interesting, first I've heard of it. I mean interesting/ tragic of course. I guess we are talking about the Qld Govt who should have built the levee, but I'm not sure if the $500m repair you are talking about was state or federal govt. The Qld Govt has had sweet fa money to play with lately (I don't really know why exactly)

But say you're given a budget and told there's absolutely no extra money. And there's the GFC going on. And a lot of important services like disability care is in need of money and is probably the worst in the country. And then someone tells you to build a levee, not having any idea when a catastrophic flood would hit. I suppose if they were willing to sack a few extra public servants in 2007, they could have built the levee...
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Re: Carbon Tax ? Fires, Insurance Hikes, Govt Complaints

Postby HA_DA_JA » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:18 pm

Suncorps' Response.

http://www.bordermail.com.au/story/1222 ... says/?cs=7

Did we have a GFC in Australia in 2008? I thought the Aust political leaders said we escaped it hence the 2 x handouts of over $40 billion???

Anyway I see that this type of thread is pretty pointless but its nice to get something off your chest once in a while.

Continue on with your nice sunny day.

(Tip of the hat to you Gentleman)

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Re: Carbon Tax ? Fires, Insurance Hikes, Govt Complaints

Postby rick » Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:21 pm

That's your turtlerock political rant for the year dale :)
I am getting more reasonable as time goes
On it seems

.. Christ if governments don't know what to
Do or insurance companies don't know what to do
Or people don't know what to do blame the weather


All I have been hearing is today is the hotest day
Ever


Err except that one time in 1932
Or that other one in 1956


Bloody hot all the same
And impossible days for those in harms way


My heart goes out to them


f@#$ suncorp .. And the government and carbon taxes .. Global warming and anything else that isn't going to burn
Your house down today .. Not worth the Internet space.
Those fires this week are just horrible
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Re: Carbon Tax ? Fires, Insurance Hikes, Govt Complaints

Postby Ausrock » Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:44 pm

Insurance companies are a business, they aren't there to take losses, consequently they'll take any opportunity to minimise those losses.

Governments.........well like it or not, they're a business too. How well they run their business can be open to debate.

As to today's temperatures.........well it's just been a good hot, dry Australian summers day. I remember numerous times when we hit 110deg F (43C).........was just an even better reason to be at the beach.
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Re: Carbon Tax ? Fires, Insurance Hikes, Govt Complaints

Postby wez » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:53 am

HA_DA_JA wrote:Suncorp recently explained that they have refused Flood Policy coverage for Emerald and Roma towns until the Govt builds infrastructure. In 2007 it was going to cost the Gov't $2million to build a levee in these areas. Since then the Govt has paid out over $500m to these affected towns in repair and rebuilding costs which could have been saved.


So I wonder... why doesn't the insurance company pay for the levee bank? Think about it.
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Re: Carbon Tax ? Fires, Insurance Hikes, Govt Complaints

Postby DarkSky » Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:13 pm

wez wrote:
HA_DA_JA wrote:Suncorp recently explained that they have refused Flood Policy coverage for Emerald and Roma towns until the Govt builds infrastructure. In 2007 it was going to cost the Gov't $2million to build a levee in these areas. Since then the Govt has paid out over $500m to these affected towns in repair and rebuilding costs which could have been saved.


So I wonder... why doesn't the insurance company pay for the levee bank? Think about it.


Geez Wez, really! That would be *way* too sensible for an insurance company\... /:)
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