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What defines........
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What defines........
OK, here's one that at least has the potential to cause some debate...................:
What (IYNSHO) really defines "good sound" especially in regards to rack mounted gear, ie; pre's, comps, etc.
What (IYNSHO) really defines "good sound" especially in regards to rack mounted gear, ie; pre's, comps, etc.
ChrisO.....I think. Oh, and F*#K Google, ask me!
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Re: What defines........
costs lots of money.
Jamil Khuri
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"it's not awesome unless its 240bpm with distorted 909 kicks!"
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"it's not awesome unless its 240bpm with distorted 909 kicks!"
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Re: What defines........
Knobs/switches that have a good solid click, or a snap.
It's only good when you can feel an ever so slight pain in your fingers after turning one of them.
It's only good when you can feel an ever so slight pain in your fingers after turning one of them.
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Re: What defines........
if it sounds better (to me) than the original when set flat and just passing signal through
Ian Dare
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Re: What defines........
In by pass or set flat, the signal coming out is in no way diminished or less than sonically than the signal going in and any enhancement of the signal is musical or what you are after as the engineer.
Chris Hallam.
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Whatever floats your boat.
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Re: What defines........
I would say gear that works for any source. And as flat a frequency response as possible. This includes transducers.
Not noisy. High headroom with a soft and musical overload characteristic when that headroom limit is reached.
So that excludes quite a few popular industry standards......
Not noisy. High headroom with a soft and musical overload characteristic when that headroom limit is reached.
So that excludes quite a few popular industry standards......
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Re: What defines........
I like it when every time I use a device for the sound I thought was in it .. its the same sound that IS in it ..
I don't care if its digital analog new or ancient .. hi fi or no fi ..
If it does what I think it does when I think it should
that would be the definition for me
I don't care if its digital analog new or ancient .. hi fi or no fi ..
If it does what I think it does when I think it should
that would be the definition for me
Rick O'Neil
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I think we went to different schools together
turtlerockmastering.com
we listen
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Re: What defines........
The first time I used an La2a and went "that's how those famous vocal sounds are recorded (and now I've got it)"
That defined it for me.
headman
That defined it for me.
headman
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Re: What defines........
headman wrote:The first time I used an La2a and went "that's how those famous vocal sounds are recorded (and now I've got it)"
That defined it for me.
headman
Same here with the DBX160 VU, 1176 and a 480.
Mark Ludwig
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SHould of been a drummer
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Re: What defines........
for me it was the KM84 on acoustic guitar... after years, and I mean YEARS!!! of trying all sorts of things, mics, postions strings rooms etc etc
I put a KM84 on my martin, and went... oh... I.. See... 8)
same again
LA2A
U47
1073
god I wish I was 21 and starting again, I would buy the right things first time 8)
I put a KM84 on my martin, and went... oh... I.. See... 8)
same again
LA2A
U47
1073
god I wish I was 21 and starting again, I would buy the right things first time 8)
Peter Knight
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Cant ego loquemur Latine
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Re: What defines........
Confession: I've got a Mindprint DTC.

I almost never use it, it's not even plugged in at the moment.
But I just can't bring myself to sell it because it looks so freaking cool.
I suspect this is not a good answer to the original question.

I almost never use it, it's not even plugged in at the moment.
But I just can't bring myself to sell it because it looks so freaking cool.
I suspect this is not a good answer to the original question.
Manning Bartlett, Studio Laughing Duck, Glenorie NSW
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Re: What defines........
Manning, if you aren't using it, and have no plans to incorporate it in your system. Sell it 

Gian Parodi
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It's the first watt that counts
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Re: What defines........
Gian, I tried - no-one wanted it.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7442
But now I don't need the money so much (at the time I was scrambling to find the cash to pay for a Blue Bottle)
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7442
But now I don't need the money so much (at the time I was scrambling to find the cash to pay for a Blue Bottle)
Manning Bartlett, Studio Laughing Duck, Glenorie NSW
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Re: What defines........
haha, no worries.
Maybe you should plug it in. Do it today!
Maybe you should plug it in. Do it today!
Gian Parodi
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It's the first watt that counts
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Re: What defines........
when you record something through it and you say "f*#Kin yeah!!!"
Chr is Bradstre et
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Re: What defines........
I know you're searching for answers regarding gear, but, my definition of good sound is:
A good song, with meaningful lyrics, "proper" harmonic progressions, and a great groove.
Musicians who can play their instrument(s) brilliantly.
Musicians who can tune their instruments properly and play in tune.
Musicians who can "get" the groove and stick to it.
Musicians who can add something to the session.
Musicians who can take direction and criticism.
(All the above includes drummers).
Singers who can sing in tune.
Singers who can work the mic.
Singers who "get" the groove.
Singers who can double with ease.
Singers who can harmonize with ease.
Singers who can take directions and criticism.
Then, engineers who can use whatever equipment they have available to allow the song and the music to be captured (or reinforced {for our Live sound brothers}) in the best possible way.
I know I'm stating the bleeding obvious here, but you asked.
IMNSHO
I have board tapes that were recorded 30 years ago that sound good because the above criteria was met.
Al
A good song, with meaningful lyrics, "proper" harmonic progressions, and a great groove.
Musicians who can play their instrument(s) brilliantly.
Musicians who can tune their instruments properly and play in tune.
Musicians who can "get" the groove and stick to it.
Musicians who can add something to the session.
Musicians who can take direction and criticism.
(All the above includes drummers).
Singers who can sing in tune.
Singers who can work the mic.
Singers who "get" the groove.
Singers who can double with ease.
Singers who can harmonize with ease.
Singers who can take directions and criticism.
Then, engineers who can use whatever equipment they have available to allow the song and the music to be captured (or reinforced {for our Live sound brothers}) in the best possible way.
I know I'm stating the bleeding obvious here, but you asked.
IMNSHO
I have board tapes that were recorded 30 years ago that sound good because the above criteria was met.
Al
Al Craig
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Re: What defines........
Al, I know I kinda pointed towards gear but after sitting on the replies for a while I think Rick's and especially your response probably gave the closest answer to the questions in my head. It kinda makes me wonder how much high quality gear is being used to record lesser quality performers and their performances..........methinks, shitloads.
Actually, come to think of it I know numerous technically excellent musicians and singers and if I'm honest, regardless of their technical proficiency (and in some cases, reputation), their ability to convey genuine emotional feel is sadly lacking..................God, now I'm feeling depressed.

Actually, come to think of it I know numerous technically excellent musicians and singers and if I'm honest, regardless of their technical proficiency (and in some cases, reputation), their ability to convey genuine emotional feel is sadly lacking..................God, now I'm feeling depressed.

ChrisO.....I think. Oh, and F*#K Google, ask me!
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Re: What defines........
You can spen an awful lot of money on wonderful gear and still not be able to make a silk purse from a pigs ear, music wise, and then again, with fairly modest gear and talent, create some superb art.
Bob Charman - Stockport Sound, SA
The Road Goes On Forever and the Party Never Ends..........
The Road Goes On Forever and the Party Never Ends..........
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