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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Engininja » Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:56 pm

geareyes wrote:@ Steven - Great looking CK12.Well done :-) How does it sound?

I've found that CK12's vary SOOOO much.When you get a good one, treasure it.The most remarkable capsule.As with all capsules, upon purchase it's almost impossible to tell cond from a visual.You can have a showroom specimen visually, but tragically it's lost all of its tension.That's the critical prob with these non center terminated capsules.

I've heard a still sealed 251 head sound very average.


Its awesome. Outstanding.
I used the one at Sing Sing and it blew me away. So I tracked one down and it blew me away. Haven't put them side by side. It had just been serviced by Andreas Grosser when I got it.
But...
For what I do, (use 20 kinds of distortion on vocals) I'm a sucker for the SM7b. Everyone I work with is far more comfy singing into the Shure. The last person I used the 414 on complained they could hear their pancreas working.
As I only ever use Soundpark or Sing Sing, I'm spoilt for mic choice, So it kinda just comes with me on sessions for the company.
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby geareyes » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:23 pm

Heck, I don't want you stumbling upon that one mood that makes you feel OK about giving up on dreams...

I'll look into other avenues for the DO's.You would know, that acquisition of rarities, comes about through gentle, gentleman like, consistent pestering ;)

When you install that thing snoozing in that big mortuary freezer on wheels.I won't need to tell you how cool your dreams are!
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby geareyes » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:08 pm

Hey Steven - The foolproof method to buying CK12 equipped mics.Get one after it's been given the thumbs up from Andreas.Well done & congrats!
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Engininja » Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:17 pm

geareyes wrote:Hey Steven - The foolproof method to buying CK12 equipped mics.Get one after it's been given the thumbs up from Andreas.Well done & congrats!

Yeah, I got lucky.
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Damien » Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:07 am

ive been going round and round again..

i was using u47-V76 (or 72) no comp, or a great NOVA Sound (blue) comp, or distressor.

lately ive been using 414buls (i havent really dug this on vocals since tape.. maybe im deaf and want the tops..) into the turtlerock auction / rob squire neve 33415 - Nova Compressor. i love these nova comps.

i actually helped build a bunch of them when i worked for nova.. i believe they have the same gain reduction thingy as DBX160X and the ALSmarts have.. not as grabby as either.
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby rick » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:26 am

Photos Damien photos
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Paul Maybury » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:18 pm

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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Chris H » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:57 pm

rick wrote:Photos Damien photos


What are you up to with this photo's thing Rick? Something tells me there is more to this little endevour. :)
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby rick » Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:11 pm

nothings up , I have just paid a packet on june 30 to make sure the forum can host photos and I am really curious about local real world vocal setups.. its been very informative so far

If you want to post a photo use the upload attachment function under the post a reply section you can grab them straight off your iphone library or off your puter desktop .. its been like that forever.. but this site has something like 15,000 pages and the online space was getting to be a premium.. to a point that is no longer a problem
besides nobody can see your photos unless you a forum member ..
I like that too !

vocal chain photos.. .. wheres the photos :)
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Paul Maybury » Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:32 pm

I don't know what I did wrong, maybe the files were too big? I compressed them, but stills seems not to work.
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Linear » Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:42 pm

Engininja wrote:Thinking about letting it go to gets me a KU100.


Yo Steven,

My next mic purchase is going to be a KU100.

I used ricks on a session a few months ago - amazing. Especially on strings/brass sessions.

So Rick when are you going to sell me yours :) or am i going to have to get one from OS?

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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Drumstruck » Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:13 pm

testing 1, 2

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seemed to work.... had to convert them to PNGs as it rejected JPGs
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Engininja » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:54 pm

Linear wrote:
Engininja wrote:Thinking about letting it go to gets me a KU100.


Yo Steven,

My next mic purchase is going to be a KU100.

I used ricks on a session a few months ago - amazing. Especially on strings/brass sessions.

So Rick when are you going to sell me yours :) or am i going to have to get one from OS?

Chris


I'm a fan. I did some learning with a fella that pretty much uses it for everything including at times a full band and no other mics. Its a handy bit of kit. Ugly as sin tho.
There is a KU81 for sale on ebay at the mo. The price changes daily between $3k-$4k.
Rick, I'l swap you for the 414.
Anyone in Melbourne have one I can hire?
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Barney Loveland » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:49 pm

47 Style homebrew (use to be U67 or 87 but both sold to fund new room) Pickstone pre or Trimax tube or neve, distressor (just knocking the peaks off), sometimes Buzz SOC1.

With the magic secrets all out in the open (exception being unobtainium items such as VF14 etc) there is a lot of great diy gear available to these handy with a heat stick that is in the same ball park with the classics. I will be trying the U67 on groupdiy when I can afford to.


No pics tonight. Tried and this message popped up.

'The image must be at least 0 pixels wide, 0 pixels high and at most 800 pixels wide and 600 pixels high. The submitted image is 478 pixels wide and 640 pixels high.'
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Manning » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:52 pm

Make your image less than 600 pixels high. Or split it in half like I did.
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby geareyes » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:57 pm

Barney Loveland wrote:47 Style homebrew (use to be U67 or 87 but both sold to fund new room) Pickstone pre or Trimax tube or neve, distressor (just knocking the peaks off), sometimes Buzz SOC1.

With the magic secrets all out in the open (exception being unobtainium items such as VF14 etc) there is a lot of great diy gear available to these handy with a heat stick that is in the same ball park with the classics. I will be trying the U67 on groupdiy when I can afford to.


No pics tonight. Tried and this message popped up.

'The image must be at least 0 pixels wide, 0 pixels high and at most 800 pixels wide and 600 pixels high. The submitted image is 478 pixels wide and 640 pixels high.'


Hey Barney,

Buzz SOC 1.1 here too.Sweet, sweet comp.Sounds great on acoustics as well.

I must say, that U67 on DIY looks great!

No one using an M269 on VOX? Really, really great choice if you have an opportunity to put one up.
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Barney Loveland » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:36 am

Here's the pic. Yeah the buzz comp is a great. But whats' with the name???? haha I'm down for an imminent delivery of a Lucas CS 1..... (well have been since Feb....) so will be adding that to the mix. But luckily I have been too busy with toddlers and reno to be tracking until now.
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby gigpiglet » Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:06 am

i feel like mine is a bit ghetto (especially considering some of the other gear i have!)
but for years (like seriously, 10 years) I've been MANN M21 - Peach 916 - DBX160 (years ago) and now just LA6110 pre/comp.

in mixing ive used all kinds of different comps, but often the 6110 again, or a 160, these days usually a focusrite producer pack.
but something thats pretty well always on there in the mix is the BSS901 multiband comp (or "spectral EQ as they call it")

works for me.
better than anything else, including much more expensive chains, so I'm sticking with it.

i do like the Beta58 - neve prism combo ive used on a few live recordings too.. but certainly not my go to.
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby rick » Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:54 pm

This would be the bit where you iPhone your Mann mic and the bss dyn eq lim thingy
And which 160 your using So we don't have to imagine wtf your talking about
Lots and lots of guys are in the ghetto studio world lurking on this site
I want to encourage them to post when they can
So if the regular guys are using high end and ghetto at the same time
That's cool I reckon. Show us !
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby HA_DA_JA » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:40 pm

I just use a combination of these with either U87 or Beesneez James.
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Wiz » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:43 pm

HA_DA_JA wrote:I just use a combination of these with either U87 or Beesneez James.
Cheers




my god man, put those things in a rack!!


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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby The Tasmanian » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:14 pm

Lucas CS-4
(stopped searching for the ultimate mic now, yet to find a voice that it does not work with)

mainly into either:
Electrodyne 711's w/ EQ
Rola 77MkIII + Neve EQ
Chandler TG2 w/ EQ
Optro's (silver model) + Neve EQ

into either:
Custom Valve comps
Sta level
distressor
API 2500
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Chris H » Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:18 pm

Chris, do you ever use the comp / lim in the Optro's?
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby The Tasmanian » Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:23 pm

Hey Chris,
Not for vocals - have not even contemplated it as I have way too many compressors on hand, but I do use them for drums, guitars and other tasks at times.
What about you? what do you use them for?
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Chris H » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:11 am

I do use them for vox as well though not lately as a few have gone down and they are due for maintenance. Cash and other issues mean they will have to wait idle for a while. Something we all have to juggle I suppose. When I have used them for vox, I switch in the comp and gain them up until the red comp light indicator glows once in a while and I don't hear anything that sucks.That's about as scientific as it gets. They do seem to be a great sounding comp as I have experimented with running a mix through a pair and they reach the point where the more level you pump in, the out put gain level is no louder and they still sound ok compression wise. The mix just gets more squashed and saturated as distortion kicks in and its all musical and usable if you are after that sort of thing. Other things I use em on is acoustic guitar and extra channels when I'm recording through the Audek as they are very similar to the Audek in topology etc.
I have one really great vox recording ( well what I think is a great result ) from them with the SE vox condenser when I tracked a band live in our house and we ended up keeping the guide vox as we couldn't better it with our efforts in the studio.
A musical photo so to speak as the only over dub is the guit solo.
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby graemeh » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:16 am

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Currently using a Neumann U89 into a UA 6176. Normally would use my Beesneez Arabella but it's been away in Ohio getting fixed. Ben has upgraded me to a Producer series and has been promising delivery but still no sign of it yet...
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Drumstruck » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:00 pm

No-one using one of these in their chain?
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Manning » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:08 pm

Drumstruck wrote:No-one using one of these in their chain?


I picked up the Antares equivalent (the "Autotune Producer") when it was thrown in with the purchase of several items.

I've now owned it for two years and have yet to plug it in. If anyone wants it, make an offer.
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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby Mitch Kenny » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:00 pm

U67 - Focusrite ISA 220 then straight in. I take the pre with me everywhere I go and have been and it has never let me down and has been on every record I've done for about the last five or six years. If there isn't a good 67 available it also sounds great with a 251 and if neither of those mics work for a particular singer SM7 is the fallback.

Have used it in rooms which have had pretty much everything imaginable available to choose from and it always wins (or at least does what i want it to quickly)

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Re: tell me your vocal chain

Postby geareyes » Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:58 pm

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