State Of The Industry

[ChrisW]

By popular request, or is that unpopular request?
Overall I agree with Chris T. Things have definitely changed over the last 10-15 years.
I'm continuing on, somewhat unrealistically optimistic I admit.
I have had some time in the sun, so I mostly feel sorry for the 20 year olds, not for myself.
I know a couple of kids in new bands. I wonder how they're ever going to earn a living.
I've worked in some nice studios that have slashed their rates, and they still have plenty of free time to offer.
Go into music, playing or the studio side, because you passionately have to, not because you think it will offer stable income for a 20 year career.

[The Tasmanian]

Wow - we got 2 going...

[ether]

I'm think I'll call my next band The Optimists, though that's probably already taken.

Don't care about the state of any "industry". Naively soldiering on regardless...

[ChrisW]

Wow - we got 2 going...

I'll defer to your main thread.

[rick]

What's that saying ?
"When there is blood on the streets
And everybody has left the city
It's time to build big drum room and install the
40 channel vintage neve ? "

The optimists ? Yes !
I might change the sign on my front door !

[audioio]

"When there is blood on the streets
And everybody has left the city

I guess the rent will be cheap.

[Manning]

You can purchase a pretty amazing space in Detroit for not very much.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/summeranne/detroit-cheap-houses

[ChrisW]

In all seriousness, downtown Detroit has many spectacular buildings. It would make an incredible artist/music community, especially given the history of the city. It may eventually happen, but someone has to be first. And I'm not that game to risk my safety.

[The Tasmanian]

Downtown Newcastle is really starting to happen here in Australia.
All of these amazing vacant buildings have been turned over to artist collectives, and the town is booming with the arts.
More visionary councils please.

[audioio]

All of these amazing vacant buildings have been turned over to artist collectives, and the town is booming with the arts.

The guy who started that has been interviewed a number of times on Radio National. Really interesting.

[The Tasmanian]

I'd like to know his name - send him a 6 pack!
What an awesome forward thinking guy! (and council)

[ChrisW]

Downtown Newcastle still looks pretty bleak though, and abandoned.
I did notice a couple of funky stores last time i was there, and there are certain gentrified pockets.
No doubt the place has massive potential though. The heritage buildings and numerous beaches.
High speed rail to Sydney would be a complete game changer. Not in my lifetime though by the looks of it.

[rick]

my vote is you annex the whole newcastle city cdb and make the most mother fucker university in the world for figuring out future energy needs and solutions
like they have in dubai but here ..
get the best people in the whole world down here
make the dumbest town in the world the smartest ..
turn it into a oxford type epicenter for energy needs..

in twenty years time it will be the best idea the world has ever known

and they will probably have the NBN connected by then too

[Drumstruck]

... and following right along on this visionary path the state gov't just sold the port with no interest or repayments for 5 years.... yep, no NBN, no port, no mining tax - things are really looking up (the sh!t) .... at least they still have a footy team.... no wait, doesn't some winkler own that too ..... in the words of Hardy har har - oh dear, oh my....

[jkhuri44]

Downtown Newcastle is really starting to happen here in Australia.
All of these amazing vacant buildings have been turned over to artist collectives, and the town is booming with the arts.
More visionary councils please.

went to TINA a few years ago....wow, what a piece of shit....no more of that pls australia!

[Wiz]

I'm think I'll call my next band The Optimists, though that's probably already taken....

Did anyone else laugh out loud?


Either you are an ironic comedy genius or that was one funny Freudian slip...

[The Tasmanian]

Jamil - at least they are doing it.
and at least they have started something. It will grow and evolve.
we all start with shit -
unless of course, you were born a genius?

[jkhuri44]

the problem isnt that it's bad, its the "fake/pretend artist culture" that goes with it.

[ether]

I'm think I'll call my next band The Optimists, though that's probably already taken....

Did anyone else laugh out loud?


Either you are an ironic comedy genius or that was one funny Freudian slip...

Well, I think I'm an ironic comedy genius. At least one person laughed

[Wiz]

I'm think I'll call my next band The Optimists, though that's probably already taken....

Did anyone else laugh out loud?


Either you are an ironic comedy genius or that was one funny Freudian slip...

Well, I think I'm an ironic comedy genius. At least one person laughed

awesome.... 8)

it really did have me chucklin away ...