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Why we wont be writing for audiotechnology anymore
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Why we wont be writing for audiotechnology anymore
Hi folks
thanks for all the concern about me regarding my absence In the latest issue of audiotechnology
I have had my own wheels to spin
However I will not be writing another word For audiotechnology or anything the owners of the magazine
Have any kind of interest in
You guys know me, you know what kind of man i am
There are some lines in the sand that just dont get crossed by guys like me
If you like my stuff... dont panic i need to contribute
Just not for people who dont hold the same values as me .
Integrity is what you do when nobody is looking
thanks for all the concern about me regarding my absence In the latest issue of audiotechnology
I have had my own wheels to spin
However I will not be writing another word For audiotechnology or anything the owners of the magazine
Have any kind of interest in
You guys know me, you know what kind of man i am
There are some lines in the sand that just dont get crossed by guys like me
If you like my stuff... dont panic i need to contribute
Just not for people who dont hold the same values as me .
Integrity is what you do when nobody is looking
Rick O'Neil
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turtlerockmastering.com
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I think we went to different schools together
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we listen
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Re: Integrity is what you do when nobody is looking
I have to say I was disappointed when I turned to the back this issue. 

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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
rick wrote:
Integrity is what you do when nobody is looking
Is what my Dad taught me (among many other things) and is something I find is often sorely lacking in this industry...
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
Thanks for the explanation Rick. Good things will come out of this.
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
Uhmmm.. I'm a bit clueless right now with the move and all.. (and not that I'm that important anyways), but I'll stick with you Davey Crockett.... uhh.. Rick. 

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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
I want integrity, and I'm willing to pay for it. 

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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
Rick....your page was always the first i read in that mag !
Please let us know where your wise words surface next.
Please let us know where your wise words surface next.
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
I have no idea what i will do or anybody else that writes for them
every man has his own sense of things
But i wont be alone in my absence for sure .
every man has his own sense of things
But i wont be alone in my absence for sure .
Rick O'Neil
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
The only reason I subscribed was because I'm a member of this forum. I didn't even know about it until TR. I have no idea what happened but I will not be renewing my subscription.
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
Good on you Rick - a man of morals!
your little gem for thought on the end of each issue will be another quality thing sorely missed
your little gem for thought on the end of each issue will be another quality thing sorely missed
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
Bought a couple of issues a couple of years ago.
Found it a little odd. never bought any more.
Found it a little odd. never bought any more.
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
Magazines have a use by date and I now think Audio Technology has well and truly reached it.
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
I gave up on that mag years ago - but whenever I was in the newsagent buying SOS I would try to have a quick read of the last page or two!
I live under a rock - what has happened?
(In the most legally-non-specific terms of course....)
I live under a rock - what has happened?
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
I read Rick's columns if they have been republished to the TR site.
What the industry needs is a "vendor-independent" resource, meaning that ad revenues don't come from the companies you are reviewing. Once there is enough traffic, general advertising revenue (ie not specific to pro audio) is enough to support the publication (of course not having to physically publish anything removes an enormous overhead).
This has already happened in the IT world - see Tom's Hardware. That site is so influential it actually forced Intel to withdraw a processor from the market back in 2000.
It's all much easier said than done however. The bane of all web publications is the fact that without content there are no readers, without readers there is no ad revenue, and without revenue it is very hard to create content.
What the industry needs is a "vendor-independent" resource, meaning that ad revenues don't come from the companies you are reviewing. Once there is enough traffic, general advertising revenue (ie not specific to pro audio) is enough to support the publication (of course not having to physically publish anything removes an enormous overhead).
This has already happened in the IT world - see Tom's Hardware. That site is so influential it actually forced Intel to withdraw a processor from the market back in 2000.
It's all much easier said than done however. The bane of all web publications is the fact that without content there are no readers, without readers there is no ad revenue, and without revenue it is very hard to create content.
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
I think you are right in that it probably should be something online.
Not a forum like this, or Gearslutz. A place where people with cred write articles, and gear gets explained, reviewed.
There are enough experienced and interesting characters living Down Under to write the stuff.
(Would love to know what all the fuss is about though)
Not a forum like this, or Gearslutz. A place where people with cred write articles, and gear gets explained, reviewed.
There are enough experienced and interesting characters living Down Under to write the stuff.
(Would love to know what all the fuss is about though)
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
I thought AT was heading towards being an online publication ??
I always found some articles of value in AT and would much rather support an Oz publication than one from OS, but, unfortunately and regardless of politics, SOS offers (me) better value for money.
I always found some articles of value in AT and would much rather support an Oz publication than one from OS, but, unfortunately and regardless of politics, SOS offers (me) better value for money.
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
Not looking for a slagging session on the mag guys
Just letting you all know i wont be contributing
To it or anything the owners do again
You will hear stories over the oncoming months I guess
but i certainly wont be involved any longer - i have no contracts i never have
i am free to do what i like
but i just couldnt stomach it ...writing another word for them
you have to draw the line in sand with who you will supoort and who you wont in this world
Just felt like i should let you all know I am out ,
so if you hear wierd things you can do your own research and know that before you heard stories
i was already out
Its the simpliest way i could think of without causing anybody any harm or letting untruths be told unchecked
Just letting you all know i wont be contributing
To it or anything the owners do again
You will hear stories over the oncoming months I guess
but i certainly wont be involved any longer - i have no contracts i never have
i am free to do what i like
but i just couldnt stomach it ...writing another word for them
you have to draw the line in sand with who you will supoort and who you wont in this world
Just felt like i should let you all know I am out ,
so if you hear wierd things you can do your own research and know that before you heard stories
i was already out
Its the simpliest way i could think of without causing anybody any harm or letting untruths be told unchecked
Rick O'Neil
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
Wonder if they'll give me a discount on my renewal if I phone up saying I only subscribed for Last Word? 
I did just renew my AT and still enjoy some of the articles, even if the mag isn't as good as it once was in some ways. But sorry to hear your column won't be part of it Rick, it was a great read and one of my favourite parts of the mag.

I did just renew my AT and still enjoy some of the articles, even if the mag isn't as good as it once was in some ways. But sorry to hear your column won't be part of it Rick, it was a great read and one of my favourite parts of the mag.
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
Wow, so basically it'll just be a bunch of ads.
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
My subscription ended with the issue before the current one. I was disappointed when I purchased the current issue and your article was not there, Rick.
Integrity is lacking in a lot of places and it seems almost unfashionable to have it.
Thanks again Rick for your contribution to the mag in the past - I have really enjoyed it the most.
Integrity is lacking in a lot of places and it seems almost unfashionable to have it.
Thanks again Rick for your contribution to the mag in the past - I have really enjoyed it the most.
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
Very disappointing news rick - your column was the first I turned to, like most everybody else here...
I get my AT gratis so I'll still be flicking through, but I long ago realised it's (mostly) yet another marketing tool for the advertisers. Rob's column is also excellent, so I wonder if his days are numbered too...
Good on you for holding to your principles. I admire and respect that.
...and thanks for all those great articles over the years!!
I get my AT gratis so I'll still be flicking through, but I long ago realised it's (mostly) yet another marketing tool for the advertisers. Rob's column is also excellent, so I wonder if his days are numbered too...
Good on you for holding to your principles. I admire and respect that.
...and thanks for all those great articles over the years!!
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
tunetown wrote:Wow, so basically it'll just be a bunch of ads.
well who knows ? everybody involved with the magazine has their own race to run
everybody gets to work out how they want to be seen publically
none of us are actual journalists as such , so it all depends on why you were writing for them i guess

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Manning wrote:I read Rick's columns if they have been republished to the TR site.
I would love to read Rick's articles online - where are they?
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
there are a bunch of old ones hidden away in this site for the curious
we have started working on the new site they could well be a feature , i dunno
we have started working on the new site they could well be a feature , i dunno
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a.d.a.m. baby wrote:Manning wrote:I read Rick's columns if they have been republished to the TR site.
I would love to read Rick's articles online - where are they?
You have to undergo the initiation ritual and learn the secret handshake...
Oh OK, here they are:
http://www.turtlerockmastering.com/articles.html
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
Do you have the one you were gonna write for this issue, or didn't it get that far?
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
Cant answer that
Life is complicated
Life is complicated
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I really enjoy your writing style Rick, hope to see it again somewhere someday.
It sure has been a strange year allright.
Cheers.
It sure has been a strange year allright.
Cheers.
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
On a similar... yet entirely random note... I am in a pickle.
Last night I purchased 4 slabs of James squires for $70 delivered to my door.
Do I lack intregity because I purchased thinking "they have definitely made a mistake... oh well... cheap beer for me!"...
Or do they lack integrity because they have suddenly realised "nope, we made a mistake... you aren't getting any!".
Rememeber Gents, this is Beer we are talking about. Beer.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/technology/ ... 6195631804
Last night I purchased 4 slabs of James squires for $70 delivered to my door.
Do I lack intregity because I purchased thinking "they have definitely made a mistake... oh well... cheap beer for me!"...
Or do they lack integrity because they have suddenly realised "nope, we made a mistake... you aren't getting any!".
Rememeber Gents, this is Beer we are talking about. Beer.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/technology/ ... 6195631804
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Re: Intregity is what you do when nobody is looking
if coles cant get their online operations right...how the f*k can anyone else?? I wouldnt feel an ounce of guilt for that..maybe i'd feel guilty for not buying 10 slabs 

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